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Bright foreigners like to study in America. Shame they can’t stay

by _eqet on 9/8/14, 7:58 PM with 15 comments

  • by nobodysfool on 9/8/14, 11:15 PM

    That's what happens when we don't hire americans to fill american jobs. When we depend on foreigners because they are less expensive and more loyal, we suffer for it. How many STEM majors are out of work now, yet people are complaining that we don't have enough H1Bs? and that we don't convert those H1Bs into immigrant visas? What happens when they too get better say in their jobs, unionize, and finally get laid off... will we just go about our business and hire more foreigners on a legally temporary basis? We'll have so many homeless that it would be ridiculous to even consider public welfare.

  • by vorg on 9/8/14, 10:07 PM

    > More far-reaching reforms, though, will need the approval of Congress, which is unlikely

    Look at what happened in Australia and New Zealand since the 1980's (and Canada?) and you'll realize congressional approval is likelier than you think. Allowing students to stay boosts house prices and rents - that's what people will vote for. If one government doesn't do it then the next one will. Giving their children a US education, residency, and home is what most Chinese work for and the US foreign currency holdings that China's holding over America's head is how they'll do it.

  • by Zigurd on 9/8/14, 9:21 PM

    This is pretty insane. We have overcapacity in colleges (outside of elite institutions). We should offer all foreign university graduates visas whether or not they have a job right this moment, and regardless of whether they are chemical engineers or lit majors. We've been handed the best and brightest students plus hundreds of thousands in tuition for each one from all over the world. Not keeping them is willful self-harm.

  • by bkmrkr on 9/8/14, 8:27 PM

    Know of several people in this situation, even people making 70k+ out of college and paying taxes still need to leave.

  • by nickpp on 9/8/14, 11:36 PM

    Maybe it's time to think about the rest of the WORLD. Those other countries need bright, educated people too...