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Honeywell Lyric thermostat

by afx2in on 6/10/14, 2:18 PM with 51 comments

  • by brucehart on 6/10/14, 3:13 PM

    It looks like a poor man's version of a Nest except it costs $50 more and has to be purchased through a contractor. The distinguishing feature that they are touting (the geo-fencing capability) is not something I would even want. I don't want an app on my phone sending constant updates to Honeywell on exactly where I am located. This seems like an established company trying to play catch-up to an unanticipated change in their market and doing a poor job.
  • by kstrauser on 6/10/14, 4:07 PM

    They sued Nest for allegedly violating patents that Honeywell wasn't using (because they could've owned the Nest market if they'd moved first): http://honeywell.com/News/Pages/Honeywell-Files-Lawsuit-Alle...

    No thanks. I don't want to reward that behavior.

  • by untothebreach on 6/10/14, 2:37 PM

    One reason I haven't started adding 'Smart Devices' to my home is that I am not confident that traditional device manufacturers are thinking about security like they should. Case in point, the Belkin WeMo vulnerability[1]. Does the convenience of adding these devices to your home make up for the fact that every one you add is a potential attack vector?

    1: http://hackaday.com/2013/01/31/turning-the-belkin-wemo-into-...

  • by kungfooey on 6/10/14, 3:02 PM

    As usual, the pricing is opaque. Click "Get Lyric" and it directs me to a list of "certified contractors."

    > The Lyric Thermostat is currently available exclusively through Honeywell certified contractors.

    It does say it will be available for self-installation "soon." However, so far this continues the long-standing tradition with HVAC companies.

  • by jwildeboer on 6/10/14, 5:13 PM

    Best part: "The Lyric Thermostat is currently available exclusively through Honeywell certified contractors." No, you cannot install this yourself. #facepalm
  • by post_break on 6/10/14, 3:04 PM

    As of right now you can only get this through a contractor. Seems like DOA if they keep it that way.
  • by ddrmaxgt37 on 6/10/14, 4:59 PM

    "The next generation of smart technology from the company that invented The Round thermostat."

    Wow

  • by carlob on 6/10/14, 5:25 PM

    Eww. This website could be the poster child of whatever is wrong with today's web design trends.

    It looks terrible unless you're in full screen.

    It breaks scrolling.

    Fonts are some unreadable superthin sans-serif.

    Flat drawings of real stuff that are hard to understand and take over the foreground.

  • by sscalia on 6/10/14, 4:12 PM

    I won't buy a NEST after the Google acquisition; nice to see other players entering this space.

    Laughable how long it took them -- Honeywell should have completely owned this market.

    Next up for disruption is home security.

  • by flyinghamster on 6/10/14, 3:39 PM

    One other thing about the "Internet of Things" movement that has really bugged me: all of these Internet-enabled Things tend to rely on (oh, no, there's that word again) the "cloud."

    I really don't like the idea of my home reporting everything to third parties. If I want access to things on my home LAN, it should be through my own VPN and not a third party.

  • by Bud on 6/10/14, 3:53 PM

    What, did Honeywell hire the vaunted Hardware Copying division of Samsung to make this? Couldn't look more like a Nest rip-off if you set out from the start trying to make a Nest rip-off. (Which they likely did.)