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Yotaphone

by rnl on 12/4/13, 10:38 AM with 102 comments

  • by BrechtVds on 12/4/13, 11:07 AM

    The "Scroll down" hint wasn't obvious enough for me. I'd also show both screens as soon as you land on the page, as that is the unique feature of this phone and it took me quite some time before I actually found it.

    (If you don't scroll but just click on the links you just see 1 screen at a time. If you aren't really paying attention you don't notice that there are 2 different ones)

  • by tbarbugli on 12/4/13, 12:43 PM

    Looks like everyone is bitching and only talking about the scrolling issue (very common HN meta feedback). I find the use of eink screen brilliant! I hope they manage to go on the market (and in EU too!)
  • by ryanwhitney on 12/4/13, 11:47 AM

    The scroll changes the smartphone display instead of moving down the page, and more often than not lands between transitions.

    If you'd like to sell a phone, hire a web designer that shoots for real goals instead of trendy bullshit.

  • by girvo on 12/4/13, 11:15 AM

    Go check out Engadgets hands on with a prototype of it on YouTube. I'm on my phone otherwise id link it myself.

    It's certainly interesting, but I think the eink back looks a little... Well, ugly. Would be neat if reading HN on it would not drain my battery, but the radios suck down most battery after the screen, so I think offline documents would be better suited. Think not needing a kindle... It's really different.

    (why the downvote? I normally never ask, but I'm confused as to what I did incorrectly and would love to know so I can avoid it in the future)

  • by aparadja on 12/4/13, 11:51 AM

    It took five full middle finger mouse wheel scrolls to get to the portion where the first map popped up on screen. It looks cool and all, but this is just ridiculous.
  • by adamors on 12/4/13, 12:42 PM

    Looks cool but I couldn't bother spending more than 30 seconds on that page. Do you seriously expect your users to scroll for 2 minutes to present information that could be put into a slideshow/GIF/video?
  • by jspc on 12/4/13, 11:35 AM

    Phone aside I can't be the only person who finds the whole scrolling/animation thing just a bit obnoxious, can I? Such a slow way to get to the information.
  • by cipher0 on 12/4/13, 11:10 AM

    How much does it cost? I can't find it anywhere on the website, not even on the preorder page.
  • by hbbio on 12/4/13, 11:12 AM

    Maybe it's just me, but at first it reads like "Yet Another Phone"...
  • by kgarten on 12/4/13, 2:46 PM

    Do people think having notifications on the back of a phone is a good idea? I just imagine several strange situations in the subway etc.
  • by kalstars on 12/4/13, 12:59 PM

    Can you use the device in e-ink only mode all the time? For all apps and phone calls etc?
  • by adnam on 12/4/13, 11:29 AM

    What was that about "You Can't Build a Smartphone"?

    http://joshondesign.com/2013/12/02/nosmartphone

  • by iansinnott on 12/4/13, 1:29 PM

    Cool idea, but the large bezel on the sides makes this phone instantly ugly by todays standards. Unless it's outrageously cheap, the design will likely keep most people from buying this.
  • by moreati on 12/4/13, 12:30 PM

    Slightly offtopic, a photo of an early mockup/protoype for this phone showed a physical vibrate-mode switch ala the iPhone. The final production module doesn't.

    I've puzzled before why no Android phone (that I've seen) has a physical switch for vibrate. I can only assume Apple has a patent, but I've never found hard evidence. Anyone know of a phone other than the iPhone that has such a switch? Or the reason only the iPhone has it?

  • by Doublon on 12/4/13, 11:24 AM

    Some issues with the scrolling on my MBP with Chrome.

    Otherwise it looks nice!

  • by kirk21 on 12/4/13, 1:12 PM

    Cool design. Going to stick with Popslate (http://www.popslate.com/) so I can keep my iPhone
  • by darklrd on 12/4/13, 12:18 PM

    I missed the fact that each link has multiple screens and you need to "scroll". I was clicking on one section at a time. Otherwise it's awesome.
  • by rodolphoarruda on 12/4/13, 12:08 PM

    "Hi Honey! Do you remember about our Dinner?"

    "Oops, sorry dear... I got this new phone now and its so entertaining that I really forgot about our Dinner."

  • by dethstar on 12/4/13, 2:28 PM

    Great user design, great ux, found everything immediately 10/10 would buy from these ui/ux experts. /sarcasm
  • by skrebbel on 12/4/13, 2:07 PM

    This would be a phone that I'd actually be willing to move back to Android for. If the e-ink display API would be designed no worse than Android's main API, I'd hack all kinds of homegrown apps for it.
  • by wil421 on 12/4/13, 1:20 PM

    Some sites are enjoyable when they use the scrolling down animation effect, this site was horrible. It wasnt clear that I even should scroll down and when I did it never ended.
  • by nor-and-or-not on 12/4/13, 12:54 PM

    I wonder why there's no Ogg Vorbis besides MP3, AAC, eAAC, eAAC+, AMR, MIDI and WAV in the audio specifications.
  • by gagege on 12/4/13, 4:46 PM

    Hacker news should be renamed "Start-up Web Presence Critics" I think.
  • by scotth on 12/4/13, 11:22 AM

    I think it's kind of fun. I love that it has an always on wallpaper.
  • by Ihmahr on 12/4/13, 12:47 PM

    So the phone's first feature is the fact that it is always on?
  • by tmikaeld on 12/4/13, 11:54 AM

    The phone is upside down and even the phones logo....

    (From the first page under "Never Miss A Thing")

    http://i.imgur.com/7w427r8.png

    Seems like a real work in progress type of phone ;-)

  • by dsschnau on 12/4/13, 3:39 PM

    Argh why can't I just have a cheap e-ink phone!
  • by optymizer on 12/4/13, 1:13 PM

    Scrolling doesn't work on Chrome 31.0.1650.57 on Mac OS X 10.9.
  • by stefantalpalaru on 12/4/13, 12:29 PM

    I'm curious how a smartphone with only one (e-paper) screen would behave. Better if it's high DPI. So far I've found only the announced Onyx phone[1] with no technical details about the screen.

    [1]: https://onyx-boox.com/coming-soon-e-ink-news/e-ink-smartphon...

  • by natch on 12/4/13, 3:20 PM

    Some cool ideas here. Not new ideas, but if they are put into a shipping product, that will be good.

    Then they have "Stand out from the crowd," ugh. This is an unfortunate bullet point, just for its lameness.

    The screen doesn't look like a paper display to me. What am I missing? Are there color paper displays now?