by michaelsbradley on 6/19/25, 4:50 PM with 7 comments
Should the US insist that all of its allies nationalize development of AI?
For example, and for starters, the US could push for NATO membership to be amended such that all member states nationalize AI and agree to sharing all source code, training data, methodologies and results for research and development, as well details of budgets and expenditures for the same, with allowances for limited (and time-limited) non-disclosure for the sake of security.
It could be up to each nation to decide how to provide their citizens, institutions, and businesses access to models running on public infrastructure; and whether and to what extent private entities may operate and expose models on their private infrastructure.
by incomingpain on 6/19/25, 5:30 PM
Should anything be nationalized? Basically never. At most minimal regulation is needed; not ownership.
Energy and water work better with competition. Most countries moving toward greater privatization.
Healthcare? Even Canada's "public" system is heavily tiered and powered by private big corps.
Telecom? Clearly private. Bell, AT&T... nationalization as terrible.
Journalism? State media is inevitable propaganda.
Military? 100% returns over 5 years of lockheed, nortrop, or boeing.
Infrastructure? Roads are built by private contractors. No one has nationalized paving crews and nobody is considering it.
We don’t nationalize; government can give $, regulate transparency and liability.
>For example, and for starters, the US could push for NATO membership to be amended such that all member states nationalize AI
Do you think the republicans/trump will do this?
by nis0s on 6/19/25, 5:47 PM
Trade control is a useful tool, which is also already used where applicable, and researchers have observed that trade restrictions (high wall, deep moat, etc.) don’t necessarily produce the desired effect. For example, see Deepseek and compute restrictions.
In general, science, research, technology, and coding benefits from open-sourced collaboration based on the nature of how activities in these domains are conducted. IMO, scientists and researchers would benefit from worrying less about the distractions of politics, unless they’re explicitly told not to share secrets. Great ideas and work can come from anywhere.