by sapphicsnail on 6/9/25, 10:21 PM with 1677 comments
by Larrikin on 6/10/25, 5:29 AM
The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans
by jxjnskkzxxhx on 6/10/25, 5:28 AM
by notepad0x90 on 6/10/25, 5:42 AM
That said, what the current administration is doing is almost like they're following a manual other countries followed on their road to nationalistic decline and all the right people in places of power seem to know this. I wonder if they're ready for it? My observation is that the previous administration had four years to pass laws and measures based on trump's first four years and they didn't, which tells me there is really no stopping what is to come.
The planned decline of America won't be like other countries because of post-WW2 "super power" repositioning of country and it's critical role in global trade, communications and finance. All of humanity might suffer, at least that's my fear.
On the other hand, I like to think that if things turn sour and gruesome very fast, the American public might react to that well enough to make a u-turn.
by csours on 6/10/25, 5:32 AM
Afterwards, and from the outside, it looks and sounds like ... well read some history about attempts to 'restore proper order'. The outcome and progression is entirely and sadly predictable.
It's been about 80 years since WWII. Are we doomed to repeat this on an 80 year cycle, when the last generation who went through this passes from the scene?
by jl6 on 6/10/25, 12:40 PM
by whyenot on 6/10/25, 4:45 AM
by xunil2ycom on 6/12/25, 3:53 PM
by crmd on 6/9/25, 10:30 PM
by pvdebbe on 6/10/25, 11:13 AM
by unethical_ban on 6/10/25, 2:57 AM
You either support somewhat violent protests, regardless of topic, expecting that law enforcement and civilians will handle it amongst themselves, or you are authoritarian and demand that the federal government intervene with the US Armed Forces the moment someone throws a rock at a cop car.
This is an abomination, and anyone who supports the deployment of troops in my opinion lacks the values I thought were universal in this country.
(To support this action by Trump is to say you don't support the second amendment, on the grounds that the people should never have the power to subvert the state).
by localghost3000 on 6/10/25, 6:40 PM
Watching this unfold here is reminding me strongly of the Ghorman plotline in Andor S2: "You need a resistance you can count on to do the wrong thing at the right time."
by internet_points on 6/10/25, 9:08 AM
The galaxy is watching.
by WarOnPrivacy on 6/9/25, 10:43 PM
The Insurrection Act authorizes the president to deploy
military forces inside the United States to suppress rebellion
or domestic violence or to enforce the law in certain situations.
The statute implements Congress’s authority under the Constitution
to "provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of
the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions."
It is the primary exception to the Posse Comitatus Act,
under which federal military forces are generally barred
from participating in civilian law enforcement activities.
This is the heaviest hammer in the toolbox. Deploying it against citizens he doesn't like because he resents their message is a historical display of bad character and is profoundly unethical in a way that the harshest adjectives struggle to reflect.
by bix6 on 6/10/25, 2:42 AM
by bradley13 on 6/10/25, 9:20 AM
That said, California should have been on top of this situation. It looks like Newsom is willing to sacrifice the safety of his citizens in an attempt to score political points.
by kmarc on 6/10/25, 5:27 AM
Well, I'm not so sure about that last part anymore.
by QuiEgo on 6/10/25, 7:49 PM
by legitster on 6/9/25, 10:40 PM
Here's hoping this is purely an optics play and they are only there to waste money and incite nationalism. Because if this escalates in any way and the US military turns on Americans, its hard to understate how bad things could get.
by wellthisisgreat on 6/10/25, 6:21 AM
by Hilift on 6/10/25, 12:14 PM
by daft_pink on 6/10/25, 3:45 AM
Everyone’s okay with peaceful protests, but they should call in the national guard and prosecute people for violence. You might hate Trump, but in my previous experience, it’s the residents of the most liberal districts that suffer all the consequences of this nonsense.
by Ylpertnodi on 6/10/25, 11:19 AM
by drysine on 6/10/25, 2:48 PM
[0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/6/61/Victoria_Nula...
by khazhoux on 6/10/25, 3:49 AM
by FrustratedMonky on 6/10/25, 11:46 AM
Hyped antagonism between both sides on purpose. Check.
Remember Ghorman
by amai on 6/10/25, 8:42 PM
Seems to be some kind of tradition to send Marines every 33 years to LA.
by KETpXDDzR on 6/13/25, 12:15 AM
In this case the US is treating them with batons and rubber bullets.
by gnabgib on 6/9/25, 10:26 PM
Trump deploys National Guard as Los Angeles protests against immigration agents (105 points, 2 days ago, 50 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44214230
The National Guard Deployment in LA Is a Threat to Democracy (15 points, 7 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44230137
(Although you'd think 2000 National Guard troops would be enough without the 700 Marines)
by jleyank on 6/9/25, 10:42 PM
by lordfrito on 6/10/25, 5:19 PM
We may be smart techies but the arguments here about politics seem awfully reductive. We're out of our lane on most of this. What's with all the hate here?
The commentary here feels like its sliding it's way towards Reddit. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it's accidental, or maybe it's on purpose?
Hoping not to lose my faith in the quality of discourse on this website.
by vjvjvjvjghv on 6/10/25, 2:42 AM
by hunglee2 on 6/10/25, 5:50 AM
by CobrastanJorji on 6/10/25, 7:47 AM
> Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
by Havoc on 6/11/25, 7:14 PM
by 3eb7988a1663 on 6/10/25, 3:02 AM
by seydor on 6/10/25, 9:51 AM
by yahway on 6/10/25, 3:34 AM
by hulitu on 6/10/25, 5:41 AM
Finally, the American people fights for democracy, after centuries of oppresion. /s
by spwa4 on 6/10/25, 11:21 AM
What happened immediately before Trump started sending in armed groups to the streets of Los Angeles was Trump getting credibly accused by Elon Musk of associating with Jeffrey Epstein.
So the correct title here is "Marines deployed to LA in response to Trump's association with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein being widely discussed on Twitter".
This allows people to correctly infer cause and effect, and most importantly, intent.
by rwyinuse on 6/10/25, 7:12 AM
We'll see how far Project 2025 will go within Trump's term. I'm not optimistic.
by hypeatei on 6/10/25, 10:33 AM
by kazinator on 6/10/25, 4:44 AM
by sh34r on 6/9/25, 10:36 PM
If that kind of talk worries you, consider how much uglier it will be when the good people of LA form unregulated militias instead. Do you really want to see Ruby Ridge 2: Rooftop Korean boogaloo?
by gmerc on 6/10/25, 12:20 PM
by a0-prw on 6/10/25, 5:40 AM
P.s. China never deployed the military in the Hong Kong insurrection.
by TrapLord_Rhodo on 6/12/25, 3:57 AM
But then again, how are people protesting ICE doing their literal job? The other side of the coin is that anyone can come into the united states and live here. Which is an unsustainable policy.
I don't have the answers here, but i pray the violence stops.
by FergusArgyll on 6/10/25, 1:34 PM
by ITDoofuses on 6/12/25, 10:19 AM
You are probably posting from your Californian gated communities, afraid to lose your Mexican gardener, Venezuelan housemaid, Philippina babysitter, or your Cuban pool boy.
by sam345 on 6/10/25, 12:34 PM
"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. "
by CMay on 6/10/25, 7:36 AM
