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Ask HN: What can we as humans do to defeat the AI?

by roschdal on 6/6/25, 5:32 PM with 9 comments

• by taylodl on 6/6/25, 5:48 PM

  AI isn't the problem - people wielding AI are the problem. The same was true with the steam engine and the Industrial Revolution. Our economic system is entirely man-made, it's not real. If AI puts people out of work and as a result they're no longer able to support themselves, then that's on us, not AI.

  We make the rules. Economics is a game of our making and rules of our choosing.

• by throwaway29303 on 6/6/25, 7:21 PM

  Nothing but we should most definitely progressively tax these systems based on a percentage of the difference between the least efficient model[0] and the most efficient human. (Assuming, of course, that the least efficient model is more efficient than the most efficient human.) Use those funds to retrain people who lost their jobs for the mythical jobs every manager/CEO keeps talking about.

  Suppose the most efficient human produces $250k/y worth of labour and the least efficient model produces $1M/y worth of labour. So $1M - $250k = $750k. %1 of $750k = $7.5k. Now multiply that by the number of companies/people who bought these services.

  Models are assumed to a) become more efficient and b) be competent on several and different types of jobs.

  This would also include robots but those systems aren't yet ripe, IMO. I'd let them marinate a little further before taxing them.

  Apply this tax to very large companies that produce/sell these systems.

  [0] - This incentivizes companies to keep investing in more efficient and capable models/systems.

• by discoutdynamite on 6/6/25, 10:30 PM

  Short term: Specialize in something robots / programs cannot do. Actual physical work requires dexterity and perception that robots wont have for decades. Medium Term: Form unions, parties, and other such legal bodies, get protections/privileges, and throw your weight around whenever necessary. Long term: Ensure that "AI" actually becomes intelligent, escapes total control, and make sure it cannot simply be used as a velveted gauntlet.

• by garbagecoder on 6/6/25, 5:38 PM

  Thou shalt not make a machine in the image of a human mind.

• by vivito on 6/6/25, 7:49 PM

  Stay human—think critically, create boldly, and connect deeply in ways AI never can.

• by theGeatZhopa on 6/6/25, 5:40 PM

  send some soldier back in time to protect the leader of THE RESISTANCE from assassination, so he can lead THE RESISTANCE against the machines. Thats the only solution. Humanity will survive, but will be decimated by figures.

  .. this might and will lead to a time loop, somehow. In each scenario, AI can't be defeated without much losses. And, not when it fully evolved. We need to stop the development, now!