by voxadam on 6/6/25, 11:53 AM
Forgive me, I'm not an expert when it comes to windowing systems but wasn't Wayland started by basically all the
then current head devs of xorg? Isn't that a tacit admission my the people that know best that the project they'd dedicated years if not decades of their lives to had reached a point where further development was untenable?
Beyond the above mentioned tacit admissions, didn't nearly every major active dev on the xorg team state explicitly via various emails, blog posts, and conference talks that they saw no reasonable way forward as a matter of tech when it came to the now 21 year old xorg source, now 34 year old XFree86 source, and 41+ year old protocol model that is X11?
All that said, I wish the best of luck to the X11Libre team on their endeavors.
by throwaway1482 on 6/6/25, 10:37 AM
by firesteelrain on 6/6/25, 11:32 AM
by jmclnx on 6/6/25, 12:07 PM
I hope this succeeds plus I hope they are open to allow patches from OpenBSD. IIRC, Xorg would not accept patches from them, them, thus we have xenodm.
Also I hope NetBSD, FreeBSD and DrogonFlyBSD jumps on, this way the BSDs do not have to jump through loops for Wayland and they are not being forced to follow Linux.
And network transparency rules :)
by bowsamic on 6/6/25, 11:56 AM
I read through some of the context and his commits and the guy seems like an absolute liability. I’m more careful making such changes on our internal greenfield prototype…
by stuaxo on 6/6/25, 11:26 AM
It's that time of decade again.
by WhereIsTheTruth on 6/6/25, 11:57 AM
Screw redhat and microsoft, they have destroyed linux (gnome/systemd/secure(:clown:) boot/linux foundation)
x11 works on all my machines, wayland and gnome don't
by logicziller on 6/6/25, 6:30 PM
I've often wondered why there are so many people who want X to just die and will dismiss any criticism against Wayland. They sure do like shifting the blame elsewhere instead of acknowledging that some users do have issues running their applications.
Just yesterday I checked again if anything's changed, but nope. Jitsi Meet flickers, gr-fospher flickers and doesn't even render the plot, Emacs Application Framework doesn't work, etc. All these work perfectly fine with X.
by garlandkey on 6/17/25, 5:38 PM
Why was this flagged? I'm not even sure what that mean or that I've ever seen it before.
by M95D on 6/6/25, 12:27 PM
I'm surprised they set up Telegram and Matrix, but not IRC for chat... you know, for those situations when X isn't working...
by vermaden on 6/6/25, 11:06 PM
I run out of mental capacity for the Wayland bullshit - I am really looking forward to this X11 fork!
by bluGill on 6/6/25, 11:39 AM
Have fun - there is a reason everone on freedesktop.org went to wayland more than a decade ago though.
by DarkmSparks on 6/6/25, 12:29 PM
the fork looks like it is backed by nvidia, but it will be a few months until an actual new release is ready. Best linux news all year.
by alex_duf on 6/6/25, 11:59 AM
ok, why? any grand plan? what's the background and why would anyone bet on X.org when wayland has been ok for a decade now?
by e844dbe8fb on 6/7/25, 10:32 AM
Fantastic news. Glad that someone is continuing to support functioning graphics on Unix and Unix-like operational systems. Wayland is a joke toy with no future.