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U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days

by klipt on 4/20/25, 6:20 PM with 71 comments

  • by csto12 on 4/20/25, 7:01 PM

    Truly the party of small government and personal freedoms :)
  • by sega_sai on 4/20/25, 7:24 PM

    What do you expect when ICE have quotas on arrests -- https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/the-mystery-of-ices-...
  • by __turbobrew__ on 4/20/25, 7:36 PM

    A similar situation was documented here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ponylQTj_gg&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5t...

    On the one hand the guy in OP article didn’t have documentation and he illegally crossed the border, so what do you do as ICE? The guy claims he is a US citizen, but I bet you a lot of illegal immigrants without documentation claim they are a US citizen as well.

    Also there is no federal ID system, so how do you go about confirming if this person is a US citizen or not? It does seem reasonable that people within ICE custody should get the chance to call someone so that person can bring identification for ICE to confirm the identity, and that is maybe the missing part which lead to this situation.

  • by gortok on 4/21/25, 11:20 AM

    I would like to know how far from the “norm” ICE has deviated since January 19, 2025.

    It’s possible this is something that happens, and just wasn’t widely reported before now, but is because of the ethnophobic nature of our current administration.

    It’s also possible this is far outside of the norm and deserves more attention than it’s getting just on the face of its irregularity.

    I cannot find a non-AI generated (in my admittedly quick search) list of statistics of how many US citizens have been detained by ICE (and I do not trust that AI generated answers are accurate), so I am left with feelings, and my feelings indicate this would have been a news story no matter how rarely or often it happens, and therefore is worthy of discussion and reflection as to whether our border policies accurately reflect what we say our values are.

  • by stagezerowil on 4/20/25, 7:16 PM

    They need to file a massive lawsuit against the US government, the agents that apprehended an innocent citizen and all parties involved. This is NOT OK.
  • by croes on 4/20/25, 7:02 PM

    I guess he doesn’t look American enough
  • by fsckboy on 4/20/25, 7:56 PM

    > FTA: Court documents say a Border Patrol agent arrested Hermosillo “at or near Nogales, Arizona, without proper immigration documents” and that Hermosillo admitted to illegally entering the U.S.

    the article indicates he was visiting the area from where he lived in New Mexico and he was "lost", but it's not clear from the article whether he was seen crossing the border, or other evidence like that.

  • by jaybrendansmith on 4/21/25, 12:17 AM

    We are taking back the 'Don't Tread On Me' flag and slogan. It now belongs to us.
  • by mindslight on 4/20/25, 7:04 PM

    The real answer is that we need to align incentives and encourage the rule of law by getting rid of this blanket sovereign immunity. Held by the government for 10 days while the government slowly figures out that they shouldn't be holding you? Here's a hefty check compensating for your time, emotional distress, and other damages. Obviously, the chance of this happening with Krasnov in office is a pipe dream, but regardless of where we're at we need to remember which direction is forwards.
  • by inverted_flag on 4/20/25, 7:23 PM

    Assuming we have fair elections in the future, MAGA is screwed. Every demographic they made gains with last election is being targeted by this administration.
  • by commiepatrol on 4/21/25, 3:55 PM

    19 and no ID?
  • by mktk1001 on 4/21/25, 4:47 AM

    Land of the free, until a clown showed up and they gave it all away willingly.
  • by inetknght on 4/20/25, 7:03 PM

    "Your papers, please."