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Abundance: Big Tech's Bid for the Democratic Party

by abalone on 4/15/25, 5:05 PM with 31 comments

  • by jeffbee on 4/15/25, 5:13 PM

    Don't let these guys steal an entire word. It may be that some Tesla-implanted Libertarian weirdo co-hosted an "Abundance 2024 conference". That doesn't kill "abundance" as a goal. We need an abundance of housing. It is necessary and critical to our material success as a nation.

    You can't let the Koch Bros. fabricate a conference called "YIMBY America 2024" or whatever and then point to it and say "see, I warned you about those YIMBYs!" You have to engage with the substance of the debate.

  • by sc68cal on 4/16/25, 2:21 AM

    "What if we did _more_ neoliberalism but maybe were a bit more racist?"
  • by exceptione on 4/15/25, 8:08 PM

    If you don't do the post-mortem of "how did we end up here", no project, no plan makes a change.

    * First understand every point on the curve between a healthy democratic society and autocracy is slippery, not stable.

    * Next, understand how autocracy rises. If you want to look at the drivers toward autocracy, you will find them invariably in the same places.

    * The US problems

      - Braunhemde, already before WOII, then imported more of them afterwards. No press coverage, they are real. Even the "Sieg Heil"s on CPAC did not draw media coverage.
    
      - Cultism. Serious, deep cultism.
    
      - As a specialization: Christian nationalism + conservatism, replay of the '30s
    
        - https://xcancel.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1910179753430299043
        - https://xcancel.com/sola_chad/status/1802398272293581272#m1
    
      - Incredible concentrations of (inherited) wealth, deformed perspectives of the other 99% cultivated over generational spans
    
      - No real journalism, instead, career in media house depend on commercial ownership. Narratives tailored to segment, but no deep and critical impact of analysis. 
    
        - "Let us talk about the tariffs today, they make zero economic sense" 
        - "I think what he meant is..." 
        - "Of course this is not entirely correct, but..." 
        - "President Trump has said.."
        - "Rubio did a press conference today"
    
        - Only drama, never the Big Picture.
    
        - Elections? According to the press, those are just
           - The latest polls!
           - Repeat marketing from spin doctors at affiliated media houses
           - "Debate" = Reality TV, scores are given on wit and emotional play
         
      - Fake news is allowed as a business model. 
    
      - Rigidity => distorted beliefs. See rigidity about "free speech" via decades of pushed narratives. Now look at all the book banning, canceling of research based on keyword match.
    
      - Rigidity about free markets. Now you pay 5 million for a dinner with The Suppreme Sovite to get your business free. Tariffs, because, you know?
    
      - No concept of "Paradox of Tolerance". Parties that don't want to participate in a democratic society with rule of law and separation of powers CANNOT be part of the system. Period.
    
      - Overall corruption by oligarchy. The GOP has been killed, but the Dems have the problems too, making it difficult to make any postmortem
    
      - Exceptionalism
      
      - Vast information deserts (there are states where information cannot reach people at all ), where nothing is served but right-wing reality distortion as commercial fast-food
    
      - Normalization of personal retaliation against political enemies (that is why everybody is obeying in advance, people are used to be abused by power). Americans are frightened.
      
      - No concept of common good, everyone hustling. Also: competition means *killing* the competitor. That playbook is deeply normalized, see Big Tech. Microsoft, Intel->AMD, Google etc
    
      - Regulatory capture, rules for thee, exceptions for me
    
      - "If you are so smart, why aren't you rich?" Deep cultural programming
    
      - State capture, this is reaching the critical stage now.
    
      - Normalisation of sado-populism. "I don't care, I want the other suffer". 
    
      - Class-based society
    
    
    This was my TED talk.