by non- on 3/10/25, 5:30 PM with 987 comments
by bearjaws on 3/10/25, 5:41 PM
I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance.
If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-rank sites based on privacy and performance.
It was never about improving peoples web experience.
by freedomben on 3/10/25, 5:48 PM
Regardless, I'd love to see this give FF a big bounce in the stats. Something to reinforce that there are people out here that really want manifest v2, badly enough to switch!
by crazygringo on 3/10/25, 6:09 PM
I know people have made a lot of arguments as to why it might not be as good in theory, or why things might change in the future. But so far, ever since I was forced to switch, I have seen exactly zero difference. Lists are updated often enough that I haven't seen anything get through. Adblocking works on YouTube. If anything, pages seem to load even a little faster. I've had no complaints.
by phito on 3/10/25, 5:56 PM
by freedomben on 3/10/25, 5:50 PM
by haswell on 3/10/25, 6:10 PM
It's interesting to notice how much my internal feelings have shifted over the years. There have been a few rare occasions where I had to use a Chromium-based browser, and I felt the same "ick" I used to feel when forced to use Internet Explorer for some reason.
Come to the Firefox (and variant) side. The water is warm.
by caseyy on 3/10/25, 6:13 PM
by dgacmu on 3/10/25, 5:54 PM
And I still have all of my uBlock origin happiness. :)
by perihelions on 3/10/25, 5:43 PM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43099417 ("uBlock Origin Has Been Disabled", 19 days ago, 40 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43299886 ("The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome", 2 days ago, 663 comments)
by grimblee on 3/10/25, 8:33 PM
by jmuguy on 3/10/25, 6:03 PM
by Stagnant on 3/10/25, 5:59 PM
Powershell commands to set them:
1. New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Google\Chrome" -Force
2. New-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Google\Chrome" -Name "ExtensionManifestV2Availability" -Value 2 -PropertyType DWORD -Force
by sotix on 3/10/25, 10:28 PM
The silver lining is it can be the birth of a new generation of hackers. This generation’s version of the printer inspiring those who refuse to accept the hostile hand they’ve been dealt. Tech doesn’t have to be this way. You don’t have to accept these changes. Rebel! Start hacking away. Don’t join these companies. Found new ones that prioritize valuing users first forever. It’s a difficult task. But all difficult tasks we’ve solved were.
by vezycash on 3/10/25, 6:41 PM
1. United States v. Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey (1911)
- Duration: 7 years (1904–1911)
- Outcome: Standard Oil was ruled an illegal monopoly and broken up into 34 companies.
2. United States v. Microsoft Corp. (1998) - Duration: 4 years (1998–2002)
- Outcome: Initially ordered to split, but after appeals, Microsoft avoided a breakup and instead agreed to business restrictions.
3. United States v. AT&T (Bell System) (1982) - Duration: 8 years (1974–1982)
- Outcome: AT&T agreed to a settlement, leading to the 1984 breakup into seven "Baby Bells" to increase competition.
by imroot on 3/10/25, 6:12 PM
by chpatrick on 3/10/25, 5:56 PM
by Funes- on 3/10/25, 10:39 PM
by submeta on 3/10/25, 6:07 PM
by ltbarcly3 on 3/10/25, 6:13 PM
But.. nobody tests on it anymore I think. Lots of popular sites are very slow and laggy with it, including sites I need for work. I don't think this is because of inferior technology, I think I just think nobody spends the time to make sure things work well on firefox. I could split-brain and use chrome for github and some other stuff but that is such a pain when clicking links.
The other issue is I think firefox support will only get worse. Their market share is back to where it was in IE6 days and dropping.
by bhrlady on 3/10/25, 8:39 PM
(Disclosure, I work for Kagi, creator of the Orion browser.)
by bryanhogan on 3/10/25, 7:59 PM
But there are some things that I miss from Chrome, especially for web development. In Chrome it is possible to adjust the CSS of grid and flex containers within the developer window, which can be helpful. Firefox and Firefox Developer Edition don't have this. Firefox also seems to sometimes have problems with reloading a page when it is changed during development, whereas in Chrome this always was instant. Then there are some small feature and UI differences, like the reading-mode on Firefox is nice, but the UI of Chrome feels just a bit nicer.
by lousken on 3/10/25, 6:59 PM
by benkaiser on 3/10/25, 9:37 PM
[1] https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/bring-back-pwa-progress...
by k0stas on 3/10/25, 5:56 PM
After the install, Chrome will disable the extension on the next restart but it can be re-enabled .. for now.
by pton_xd on 3/10/25, 6:04 PM
by eYrKEC2 on 3/10/25, 6:10 PM
Ignore the crypto; enjoy the integrated ad-blocking.
Most seamless ad-blocking I've ever experienced.
by blankx32 on 3/10/25, 5:41 PM
by egurns on 3/10/25, 6:26 PM
by whitepoplar on 3/10/25, 5:41 PM
by kenanfyi on 3/10/25, 7:41 PM
So, switch to something which has privacy respecting attitude or at least tries to have it and ditch everything who does not. It is not just the browser itself, but also the services and tools that you use to do your job: browsing. After some time, you will realize how horrible browsing the web with Chrome was in this respect and how easy it is to just browse the web without a bloated piece of advertising machine.
by dogzandcatz on 3/11/25, 2:36 AM
If uBlock Origin uses filters, would it not be possible to build a program that acts as a "proxy" for Linux/macOS/Windows, etc., that uses the same or similarly crafted filters to do something akin to what some of us did back in the Flash LSO supercookie days? I was a Linux user then and I recall creating a symlink from .macromedia and .adobe to /dev/null. The cookies were written to their folders but went into the event horizon of /dev/null and I never had to worry about them, but the websites worked like a charm.
Maybe I'm wrong, but would it not be possible to use filters similar, or even different than uBlocks, to "symlink" the addresses to /dev/null or other bit bucket like NULL on other OSes? I write automation code, so I don't have the chops to develop such a program/project, but I can see it in my head "how it might work". Thoughts, ideas, criticisms welcome.
I've also taken to using Violent Monkey and scripts to block quite a bit of nonsense on the web. Violent Monkey and the iFrame blockers work well with YouTube. I suppose it's also a matter of time before things like Violent Monkey are removed as well. There has to be a way to proxy the traffic through a filter list and /dev/null the offending objects.
by est on 3/22/25, 2:52 PM
Microsoft missed a lot by not keeping ManifestV2 in Edge.
by darkhorse222 on 3/10/25, 5:50 PM
by chrisweekly on 3/10/25, 5:50 PM
by Jalad on 3/10/25, 5:37 PM
by ge96 on 3/10/25, 5:50 PM
I just re-enabled the one already installed on my devices.
Once it's legit gone gone though yeah I'm going to Firefox or use Edge for web dev stuff
Edit: I will say I am a hypocrite though I am trying to build a following by posting on YouTube... I don't control the ads on there, maybe you do when you are monetizable but yeah sucks I feel bad for the viewers. At the same time... I'll spend weeks/months on a project and no one cares so idk.
by baxuz on 3/11/25, 8:54 AM
So far it seems to be the only general solution that can inject cosmetic filters into network requests while blocking on a request (not dns-only) level.
https://adguard.com/en/blog/mv2-extensions-no-longer-alterna...
by almd on 3/11/25, 12:45 PM
Terrible sample size: I moved to FF as soon as I couldn’t use a cookie cleaner for web dev work, and ublock origin.
by MinimalAction on 3/11/25, 3:37 AM
by vlod on 3/10/25, 6:21 PM
by dbg31415 on 3/10/25, 6:34 PM
And you can, I believe, still just modify your hosts table to block out ads in Chrome. https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts
Or your router's DNS using something like NextDNS. https://nextdns.io/
Ads suck. Support content where you can, but even when you pay they still serve ads / tracking scripts. So fuck 'em. Block all the ads.
by kemono_tigris on 3/10/25, 5:59 PM
by stevetron on 3/10/25, 5:53 PM
How long after the announced Windows 10 end of life will it be before all the software companies say 'Windows 11 is the minimum' like was seen with Windows 7?
by portaouflop on 3/10/25, 6:06 PM
uBlockOrigin “Lite” is a good(?) replacement afaict
by BuckRogers on 3/10/25, 6:48 PM
by Animats on 3/10/25, 6:33 PM
by Havoc on 3/10/25, 6:01 PM
>Switch to Chrome to install extensions and themes
by dredmorbius on 3/10/25, 8:43 PM
"DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next"
<https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/03/doj-google-must-sell-...>
HN discussion: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43323485>
by sorenKaram on 3/10/25, 7:36 PM
AddBlock is still available. I was wondering if there is some issue with the extension itself that it got flagged? Maybe an update to the codebase would make the extension installe-able again?
by firebot on 3/10/25, 10:06 PM
Edge store doesn't even mention that, in fact it's featured.
I switched to edge canary on my phone because the dev options allow you to install extensions by id/crx, which I've used to get ublock origin, though it crashes sometimes, and doesn't work when you reload the whole browser, until you refresh the page or manually reactivate the extension....
by nine_zeros on 3/10/25, 7:55 PM
by enigma101 on 3/11/25, 2:51 PM
by throw7 on 3/10/25, 8:29 PM
It looks like I could turn on the linux vm and run firefox, but it "only" has a 16GB ssd of which like 12GB is "system space" (ridiculous) and I only have 1GB left which isn't enough to enable the linux dev environment.
I could look into seeing if I can get native linux on the hardware, but it's probably not worth the time and trouble for it.
by h14h on 3/11/25, 1:25 AM
I haven't used Chrome itself in years, but have had a hard time giving up Chromium-based browsers due to the rendering performance. It's always felt weird that the only way of getting extensions on these browsers was via the Chrome Web Store.
If there are viable alternatives I've not heard of, I hope folks let me know.
by tech234a on 3/10/25, 7:19 PM
by codedokode on 3/10/25, 9:10 PM
by xyzabc098123 on 3/12/25, 4:18 AM
Like one day Wikipedia inserts ads on their pages to keep the lights on. We bash Google for blocking uBlock?
I feel like I'm missing out on something. Please help me understand.
by hintymad on 3/10/25, 6:18 PM
[1] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/...
by doright on 3/11/25, 3:25 AM
by gloosx on 3/10/25, 6:29 PM
It didn't even catch any hype regarding this manifest support issue uBlock origin has, and it keeps silently working good without any interruptions, I wonder why is that?
by rohanashik on 3/15/25, 5:17 PM
by vemv on 3/10/25, 6:26 PM
(Old habits die hard)
There's https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium - is it a sound choice nowadays?
by rmoriz on 3/10/25, 6:33 PM
by aerhardt on 3/10/25, 7:58 PM
by JimmaDaRustla on 3/10/25, 7:28 PM
I also wonder when someone one will "hack" chromium to run whatever extensions they want - I could build my own extension, or build uBlock Origin from the source (if available) and execute the extension regardless of the store.
by darepublic on 3/11/25, 3:11 AM
by nilslindemann on 3/10/25, 8:17 PM
by sunaookami on 3/11/25, 6:27 AM
by byearthithatius on 3/10/25, 6:30 PM
by catigula on 3/10/25, 7:04 PM
If it's too expensive to develop a viable alternative to chromium, just say that.
The Firefox that has been trundling along for years is really just an excuse to keep the chromium monopoly afloat.
by m4r1k on 3/10/25, 8:54 PM
by Beermotor on 3/11/25, 7:48 PM
by lifeisgood99 on 3/10/25, 5:42 PM
by johnisgood on 3/10/25, 7:00 PM
by ivewonyoung on 3/10/25, 5:45 PM
I am getting high CPU usage with uBO since yesterday but I do have a lot of tabs so I was wondering if thats a bug that will get fixed.
by baud147258 on 3/11/25, 12:19 AM
by sergiotapia on 3/10/25, 5:58 PM
Download and setup Brave browser on their device. I haven't seen an ad in years.
by exiguus on 3/10/25, 9:14 PM
by prophesi on 3/10/25, 5:55 PM
by fortran77 on 3/10/25, 6:22 PM
by wistlo on 3/10/25, 6:21 PM
Edge is based on Chromium, so would that mean this breakage will eventually apply to Edge as the Manifest changes, uhm, manifest to Chromium-based products? Or is this just a Google Chrome thing?
FWIW I keep Firefox around but I have to admit I like Edge's smooth sync of bookmarks and settings across machines and even different platforms. I switched about two years ago when Edge was clearly faster and lighter. It's no longer as lightweight and there are slowly accumulating annoyances coming mostly from some Microsoft Clippy-esque attempts to make some tasks "easier" (mostly via Copilot) but I still prefer it to Firefox. My former employer/retiree benefits site, for example, won't open at all in Firefox. I've considered other Chromium based browsers like Brave but haven't (yet) been sufficiently motivated to switch. (Give Microsoft some time, I expect they'll eshit Edge eventually).
by vivzkestrel on 3/10/25, 5:51 PM
by deadbabe on 3/10/25, 7:23 PM
by odieldomanie on 3/10/25, 6:46 PM
by pcdoodle on 3/11/25, 2:20 PM
by dogzandcatz on 3/11/25, 4:25 PM
Either Python or PowerShell would work for the scripting.
by AJRF on 3/10/25, 5:58 PM
It seems like it would have worked, but the danger was over time Google report less and less information to the extension, but as it is today, the extension would have worked the same on v3 as v2?
As I say - I am ignorant sorry, its hard to search for an answer to this specific question
Edit: Sorry the answer is here: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...
by ZetsuBouKyo on 3/11/25, 6:41 AM
by NoahZuniga on 3/10/25, 6:23 PM
by djtriptych on 3/11/25, 12:30 AM
by system2 on 3/10/25, 6:10 PM
by 5etho on 3/10/25, 10:19 PM
by Am4TIfIsER0ppos on 3/10/25, 7:20 PM
by vachina on 3/11/25, 1:50 AM
Chrome is dead. Long live Firefox.
by atum47 on 3/10/25, 7:44 PM
by hit8run on 3/11/25, 2:39 AM
Safari on the Mac and Firefox on Linux and Windows it is for me.
by leke on 3/10/25, 9:46 PM
by busymom0 on 3/10/25, 6:11 PM
> Switch to Chrome to install extensions and themes
by Cub3 on 3/11/25, 2:10 AM
by southernplaces7 on 3/12/25, 4:59 AM
by LoveMortuus on 3/12/25, 5:13 AM
by bigbuppo on 3/10/25, 7:27 PM
by rayiner on 3/11/25, 4:03 AM
by dartharva on 3/10/25, 6:08 PM
by rednafi on 3/10/25, 6:22 PM
by aeblyve on 3/10/25, 6:04 PM
by charliea0 on 3/10/25, 5:59 PM
by pete1302 on 3/10/25, 7:40 PM
by m4rtink on 3/10/25, 7:37 PM
by bsdice on 3/11/25, 2:45 AM
If you are on Arch Linux, try ungoogled-chromium:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium or precompiled https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium-bin possibly with https://github.com/NeverDecaf/chromium-web-store and possibly using a .config/chromium-flags.conf like this:
--extension-mime-request-handling=always-prompt-for-install --enable-features=AcceleratedVideoDecodeLinuxGL --wm-window-animations-disabled --animation-duration-scale=0
Timely updates, team defending manifest V2, no user data stealing or background scanning b/s, browser as it should be. Got a 10 year old machine with Intel iGPU and even video acceleration in the browser works.
by anjel on 3/10/25, 8:06 PM
by cratermoon on 3/10/25, 8:28 PM
by klysm on 3/10/25, 5:49 PM
by tap-snap-or-nap on 3/11/25, 7:01 AM
by loughnane on 3/10/25, 7:41 PM
by 01jonny01 on 3/11/25, 1:45 AM
by xedrac on 3/11/25, 9:11 PM
by ur-whale on 3/10/25, 9:11 PM
by Deprogrammer9 on 3/10/25, 7:32 PM
by buyucu on 3/10/25, 7:34 PM
by dmead on 3/10/25, 7:07 PM
by raajg on 3/10/25, 8:37 PM
by zfg on 3/10/25, 7:18 PM
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
by jmyeet on 3/10/25, 6:31 PM
To boil it down, the most dominant philosophy, whether peole know it or not, is idealism. In idealism, people, nations, corporations, etc have some inherent quality beyond their physical make up. It's almost spiritual in that way. Even the concept of a soul is an idealist position. It's largely a circular argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
So, the USA on the world stage is the good guy because we are the good guys, regardless of our actions or the consequences thereof. So an awful lot of effort is spent to label certain actors as "good" or "bad" to suit some objective. Superhero movies and a perfect example of idealism and it's no coincidence that they've had a renaissance since 9/11.
Materialism is simply the view that the physical world is all there is. The consequence of this is that we affect the material world and it affects us. There are no inherent qualities like being "good" or "bad". Instead, those are simply labels you apply to the actions of an entity.
My point here is that for years Google pushed this good guy narrative (ie "don't be evil") but any materialist understands that Google is a corporation so ultimately will act like any other corporation.
Google makes money selling ads. Ad blockers affect Google's bottom line. The relentless pursuit of increasing profits means fighting ad blockers was always an inevitability. Nobody should be surprised by that.
Now some will point to Google's control of Chrome as an antitrust issue and it probably is but that misses the point. A corporation that solely owns Chrome will ultimately act in a user-hostile way too because that's what corporations do.
The only long-term successful model for something like Chrome is to be something like the Wikimedia Foundation. The profit motive will always ultimately destroy it otherwise. If you can even find a business model for a browser, which I have serious doubts about.
A materialist knows all this because of how the workers relate to the means of production. A collective (which Wikimedia Foundation is, basically) is where the workers own the means of production. A corporation introduces capital owners whose interests are in direct opposition to that of the users.
by harrytang on 3/10/25, 6:09 PM
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