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62% of Canadians Plan to Avoid the U.S. for at Least the Next Year

by djkivi on 3/7/25, 5:42 PM with 57 comments

• by epoxia on 3/7/25, 6:37 PM

  An interesting barometer of the tensions, is by looking at Canadian grocers website. All that I have seen, have "buy Canadian" and "produced in Canada" plastered onto most products. Even Walmart has a "made in Canada" tab.

• by WorldPeas on 3/7/25, 6:49 PM

  There are several Canadians by me selling their (winter) houses at lower than market rates. I asked them about it and they cited the current situation, but I'm not sure if they were doing it to get liquidity to brace themselves for economic conflict or because they were afraid of property seizure.

• by rlnvlc on 3/12/25, 2:44 PM

  I don't understand the what-does-Trump-really-want guessing game other commentators are playing in. He clearly states what he wants: Canada as the 51st state.

  Americans are about to learn that Canadians are not the polite people they think they are when things start to get real.

• by throwacct on 3/7/25, 10:57 PM

  Interesting. I'm not from the US or Canada, but are Canadians really going to "war" against the US? They're going to lose +400B in trade potentially. No markets are waiting for those products. Just "play ball" with Trump, spend more on border security, block any drugs from entering the country that might start with the letter "f" and be done with that.

• by hn_throwaway_99 on 3/7/25, 6:33 PM

  I am honestly baffled what this whole shitstorm is about. Like why did Trump want to bash on Canada in the first place? None of his purported reasons pass the laugh test. Fentanyl trafficking? As has been widely reported, less than 1% of fentanyl that has been caught enters through the Canadian border. And if Trump cares so much about drug trafficking, why did he pardon the Silk Road founder, which did over $200 million of drug sales. And if anyone can have a beef about border security, it's Canada - look at all the contraband that enters Canada (especially guns) through the northern border.

  The trade stuff makes no sense either. Just read Trump's own words about what an amazing deal the USMCA treaty (the NAFTA replacement that the Trump administration negotiated in 2020) was: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/re....

  So I get it, Trump flip flops all the time, but I'm just trying to find some rationale for the Canada ire. What especially makes me so angry about all of this is that it's just classic junior high bullying bullshit. A couple months ago basically nobody in the US had any bad thoughts about Canada at all. Then Trump went on his bizarro crusade, and now you see all this conservative commentary online bashing Canada, parroting his "51st state/governor Trudeau" nonsense. It's the same juvenile mean girl crap where the queen bee decides "Who are we going to destroy today", and then the queen bee randomly picks out some kid and basically makes everyone else treat this kid like a pariah, simply because she wants to show she can.

  The whole thing is just beyond gross to me, but I still can't understand an iota of non-insane rationale behind it.

• by needcontainers on 3/8/25, 3:34 PM

  And literaly no one will notice