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Another power failure in India

by gauravsc on 7/31/12, 8:59 AM with 29 comments

  • by kamaal on 7/31/12, 11:17 AM

    In short the reasons for failures are something like this.

    a. No proper control systems/automation to detect and prevent overload/tripping in case of excessive power consumption by any particular state.

    b. No back up/redundancy planning.

    c. The grid architecture is badly designed, and leads to cascading failures of sub grids.

    d. Low quality equipment which fails often.

    India's energy infrastructure is ancient. Its patch work for overgrown villages(Read cities) totally incapable of meeting any sort of dependable demands.

    Add to this massive bureaucracy, license raj and corruption in purchase of equipment in electricity boards. They buy low quality equipment which fails often(because they are bribed to do so), since equipment fails often they buy more.

    The state of affairs is so bad, transformers fail and burst even if rains a little heavily. What follows next is hours together of effort installing and fixing new transformers. This is a common scenario in many areas in a city like Bangalore. This is apart for hours together scale of unscheduled load shedding which is frequent.

    On top of this there are frequent protests and lobbying to stop the construction of power plants(Hydel/Nuclear or otherwise).

    And these are all state controlled monopolies. Recently I heard, Electricity board in Bangalore is complaining against builders of gated communities(Flats and Villas) and forcing them to use Govt supplied equipment. Because the private builders are using better quality equipment which is exposing and is making the Govt board look bad in front of them.

    Any attempt to correct this system is met by massive political hostility. And people proposing modern changes are perceived as anti-Indian culture capitalist stooges being used by companies in the west to sell their equipment.

  • by nsns on 7/31/12, 11:07 AM

    As far as I know, Indians are more prepared for such failures than most people. Every (middle class) Indian house I know has batteries or a generator because of the daily load shedding.

    Such failures somewhat complicate the commendable struggles against new nuclear plants and dams (e.g., http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2803/stories/201102112803090...)

  • by intended on 7/31/12, 11:18 AM

    Well hopefully this will happen for a few more days, and that will galvanize people enough to get someone to deal with the rampant power theft, and terrible power gen vs demand ratio.
  • by mjn on 7/31/12, 12:03 PM

    If Wikipedia isn't missing any, it looks like these are now the two largest blackouts in history:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_outages#Largest

  • by lenkite on 7/31/12, 2:32 PM

    Let's face reality - we have a power crisis and political sops to greedy states only exacerbate this. We were supposed to have several nuclear reactors functional and giving power to regional grids by 2012.

    Thanks to the 'green' brigade who live in a dreamland where India survives only on Solar and Wind, there are several "public-interest" court petitions stalling construction on one pretext or another. Local politicians were only too happy to buy media attention and make things worse. To get around this, we are forced to import higher and higher quantities of coal and oil. Yes..that is SO much 'greener'.

    In fact several coal power plants are not even running due to coal shortage. This year has been especially terrible due to high temperatures and a bad monsoon leading to more power consumption.

    It's a complete mess. And I don't have any optimism that things will improve. We will continue stumbling along to the next crisis..that is if this one gets solved.

  • by pm90 on 7/31/12, 1:31 PM

    I'm appalled at the no. of comments that say "the govt. is useless/shit and that the system is torn by corruption". Of course it is. More constructive comments, please!
  • by pradeep89 on 7/31/12, 11:21 AM

    What a shame ! Useless government !!! It affected ATMS, TRAINS , more than 30% indian population affected by this outage crisis
  • by mqzaidi on 7/31/12, 10:48 AM

    It started at midday and there are already such scenes, I wonder what will happen during peak commute times.

    Note that the first area to have power restored is NDMC, which houses top politicians and bureaucrats.

  • by joshuahedlund on 7/31/12, 6:23 PM

    How many years ago did India not have 600 million people with electricity to lose?
  • by sirfried on 7/31/12, 11:26 AM

    Incredible India