by aidenn0 on 2/23/25, 5:41 AM
> All shootings at schools includes when a gun is fired, brandished with intent to harm, or a bullet hits school property for any reason, regardless of the number of victims, time, or day of the week.
This definition is broad enough to encompass e.g. someone barricading themselves in an apartment a few blocks away with a 5.57 rifle and shooting at the police; this happened at my daughter's HS, and a bullet did land on the campus just because the campus is large and was in the same general direction.
It also seems like it would be broad enough to include a police officer drawing their duty weapon on a student threatening another student with a knife (also happened at my daughter's HS), but I'm less sure about that.
Neither of those would be considered "school shootings" by the vast majority of the population.
by jjmarr on 2/23/25, 4:58 AM
A homeless guy shot another homeless guy on my university campus a few weeks ago. It's hard to consider that a school shooting even though it happened on-campus.
by anonnon on 2/23/25, 5:24 AM
by m4r1k on 2/23/25, 7:20 AM
Absurd that 2021-2024 saw massively more shootings than 1966-2020 combined. Clearly it’s getting out of hands. What’s the reason behind this huge rise?
by CobrastanJorji on 2/23/25, 5:23 AM
Interesting that 2% of school shooters are the school's police officer. I guess that's not surprising, since they're presumably the only person who'd regularly have a gun on campus.
by shipp02 on 2/23/25, 5:32 AM
How have 40% of the perpetrators escaped? Seems a little high given how sensitive of a subject school shootings are.
by anonnon on 2/23/25, 6:26 AM
I understand it's an emotional topic, but the article is just dry data, and flagging it (along with half the comments in this thread) was unnecessary. I wouldn't even care that much if it weren't for the fact that HN clearly penalizes accounts based on how their submissions and comments are flagged by other users. @dang could you please unflag it?
by everyone on 2/23/25, 5:36 AM
Is this globally or in one specific country though? It doesnt say anywhere on the page as far as I can see.
by pmags on 2/23/25, 1:16 PM
There seems to be a disingenuous attempt by many respondents to get readers to focus on definitions and ignore the trends.
I suggest you to look at the second graph showing the fatal/wounded data pretty much mirrors the incident data. Then ask yourself if this is problematic.
EDIT: Here's one account of what these statistics mean for those involved: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/23/health/teacher-shooting-p...
by mgarfias on 2/23/25, 5:15 AM
are they still counting a pair of gang bangers shooting each other in the parking lot a school shooting?
by ein0p on 2/23/25, 5:00 AM
I wonder why the school shootings went up so much under Biden, and why we heard so little about it.
by WorkerBee28474 on 2/23/25, 5:22 AM
By their definition, if an unused bullet is thrown at a brick wall on school property, that is a shooting. It doesn't even need a casing or propellent.