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Is Ops a Bullshit Job?

by donutshop on 2/17/25, 6:10 PM with 10 comments

  • by sepositus on 2/17/25, 9:38 PM

    Not sure what experience OP has, but I’ve never been on a team of devs who were actually interested in doing anything beyond writing code. It’s typically like pulling teeth just to get them to accept a minuscule portion of responsibility for delivery.

  • by skuxxlife on 2/17/25, 11:51 PM

    Part of the problem is that when ops is doing their job well, nobody notices. You get a party when the regular devs ship a big new feature, but no-one really celebrates when you have five nines of availability for the year.

    Personally I’m a big advocate for devs doing a rotation on an ops-focused team so they better understand the full picture of professional software development. Hopefully they learn that it takes more than code in an editor to create a product.

  • by altairprime on 2/17/25, 11:31 PM

    As someone with thirty years of ops work under my belt, I feel compelled to say a few words in reply to this article.

  • by 28304283409234 on 2/17/25, 7:22 PM

    No, because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. And you are the one making it whole.

  • by channel_t on 2/18/25, 3:59 AM

    I will say that it can definitely very much be a bullshit job if your org structure is optimized for bullshit. Like 80% of QA jobs are the result of hierarchical bullshit pipelines, and certainly no small percentage of dev roles too.