by jcgrillo on 2/14/25, 5:02 AM
> German police were investigating an incident at a Hamburg shipyard where
several dozen kilograms of metal shavings were dumped into a corvette-class vessel's engine system.
Italics mine, and holy crap that's a lot of metal shavings.. like multiple 55gal trash cans' worth.
by hx8 on 2/14/25, 5:36 AM
Sabotaging engines of a military ship doesn't fit with my expectations of military security. You cannot even sabotage most civilian office printers without getting past a security badge and passing through multiple security cameras.
by aitchnyu on 2/14/25, 5:31 AM
Tangential, Emden is the name of a warship that shelled Chennai (formerly Madras) in India, so Tamil and Malayalam languages today use the name for dominating and big.
by rbanffy on 2/14/25, 4:53 AM
Hybrid warfare is nothing new and we’ve been seeing it clearly for the past decade, at the very least.
by somat on 2/14/25, 6:30 AM
Some context into the importance of reduction gears from the battleship New Jersey channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw-d6ymgA_c (Westinghouse Leasing Reduction Gears to Navy Ships: Fact or Fiction?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGLoBbTeTAs (The Keys to the World's Fastest Battleship: Unlocking the Reduction Gears)
The comments are full of former U.S. Navy sailors remembering how they had to have an armed guard and strip down before entering while the reductions gears were opened and being inspected.
by duxup on 2/14/25, 5:57 AM
Do the Germans have any non verbal only steps that they can take regarding Russian?
by varsketiz on 2/14/25, 10:37 PM
Wow, this comment section has quite some russian propaganda.
by yakshaving_jgt on 2/14/25, 4:59 AM
by trhway on 2/14/25, 6:04 AM
I wonder if Germany still keeps or even installs new Russian-made (hardware and software) navigation equipment - "Transas Marine" - on its Navy ships like they did 15 years ago (what a different times it were, as Russian opposition says - "vegetarian times" :)
by renewiltord on 2/14/25, 6:23 AM
The problem with these guys is that we domesticated them too much. We had to blow up their pipeline just to get them to know who the threat against them was. You have to take the horse to the water, you have to make him drink, but can he still run? Who knows.
by ashoeafoot on 2/14/25, 6:21 AM
"Is a hibryid atrack, nobody can know for sure, who did this, lets not stoop to hate crimes and point fingers on our favorite dealer." Chancellor Jonesing
by ashoeafoot on 2/14/25, 6:34 AM
Good thing, that as Ukraine showed, against russia you dont need a navy. Baltic seababies for the win.
by labster on 2/14/25, 5:33 AM
This is an act of war, right? Or are we just going to let Russia get away with it again?
by mediumsmart on 2/14/25, 6:16 AM
Anything to trigger article 5 and turn the tide
by tommiegannert on 2/14/25, 7:35 AM
> Vice Adm. Jan Christian Kaack, the inspector of the German navy, said at a press conference on Tuesday that the damage involved "more than one unit."
> The Emden is one of the five new K130 corvettes that Germany ordered for delivery in 2025 to fulfill its NATO requirements.
Ugh. Could that be five damaged units? Finds metal shavings in new engine. Touts it as sabotage without explaining further. Spends the rest of the article on fear mongering. If this was an internal investigation, that would have been great. Doing a press conference about it? Sounds more like "before we investigate where it came from, should we take the opportunity to do some propaganda?"
(With all the recent subsea cable issues, yeah, something is going on in these waters, but this is not a good press release.)
by rixed on 2/14/25, 6:31 AM
"Do not attribute to malice what can be explained by journalist incompetence" ?
by shut_up_german on 2/14/25, 5:41 AM
"Süddeutsche Zeitung wrote that if the shavings hadn't been detected during an inspection, they would have caused significant damage to the ship."
So there was no damage. How convenient indeed that there happened to be an inspection.