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EU criticises Trump's negotiation tactics in Ukraine peace talks

by coffeebeanHH on 2/13/25, 1:30 PM with 12 comments

• by casenmgreen on 2/13/25, 2:23 PM

  Is surrender a tactic?

• by tmnvdb on 2/13/25, 2:03 PM

  I understand the criticism, Trump has essentially given away some core issues before negotiation starts, usually not what you want to do. However, a more favorable interpretation is that all knew these things were not really on the table, and it might help to build trust with Putin. My feeling is that it is hard to tell how this will play out for now..

• by oldpersonintx on 2/13/25, 1:45 PM

  Ukraine is an independent nation

  if the EU wants to bankroll and arm Ukraine, and Ukraine wants to go on fighting, then by all means proceed

  the outcome will be the same, just with more death and destruction

  look at maps - Ukraine is not winning

  Russia is not winning either but they also aren't losing