by davekiss on 1/17/25, 2:56 PM with 37 comments
by cannam on 1/21/25, 9:48 AM
- The Vamp Plugin Pack for Mac finally got an ARM/Intel universal build in its 2.0 release last year, so hopefully the caveat mentioned about the M1 Mac should no longer apply
- Most of the Vamp plugins in the Pack pre-date the pervasive use of deep learning in academia, and use classic AI or machine-learning methods with custom feature design and filtering/clustering/state models etc. (The associated papers can be an interesting read, because the methods are so explicitly tailored to the domain)
- Audacity as host only supports plugins that emit time labels as output - this obviously includes beats and chords, but there are other forms of analysis plugins can do if the host (e.g. Sonic Visualiser) supports them
- Besides the simple host in the Vamp SDK, there is another command-line Vamp host called Sonic Annotator (https://vamp-plugins.org/sonic-annotator/) which is even harder to use, equally poorly documented, and even more poorly maintained, but capable of some quite powerful batch analysis and supporting a wider range of audio file formats. Worth checking out if you're curious
(I'm the main author of the Vamp SDK and wrote bits of some of the plugins, so if you have other questions I may be able to help)
by swyx on 1/21/25, 8:56 AM
by vjshah on 1/21/25, 2:19 AM
How was this done? This seems like an even more difficult task to do well than what’s described in the article
by webprofusion on 1/21/25, 5:09 AM
Around 2013 I built a guitar tab synced to youtube video proof of concept thing and promptly let it rot, should have done more with it!
by yurishimo on 1/21/25, 10:19 AM
One 'feature' that immediately came to mind for me is automatic transposing for use with a capo. Many hobby guitarists cannot play barre chords for an entire track, especially if they don't know it already. Transposing is already a thing for vocal karaoke and quite common. Some players may be skilled enough to transpose in their head to take advantage of the capo, but juggling the lyrics, instrument, and transposing at once is quite taxing mentally.
Cool project!
by keymasta on 1/18/25, 1:18 PM
I started dabbling with vamp as well a couple years ago, but lost track of the project as my goals started ballooning. Although the code is still sitting (somewhere), waiting to be resuscitated.
I have had an idea for many years of the utility of having chord analysis further built out such that a functional chart can be made from it. With vamp most of/all the ingredients are there. I think that's probably what chordify.com does, but they clearly haven't solved segmentation or time to musical time, as their charts are terrible. I don't think they are using chordino, and whatever they do use is actually worse.
I got as far as creating a python script which would convert audio files in a directory into different midi files, to start to collect the necessary data to construct a chart.
For your use case, you'd probably just need to quantize the chords to the nearest beat, so you could maybe use:
vamp-aubio_aubiotempo_beats, or vamp-plugins_qm-barbeattracker_bars
and then combine those values with the actual time values that you are getting from chordino.
I'd love to talk about this more, as this is a seemingly niche area. I've only heard about this rarely if at all, so I was happy to read this!
by brandoniscool on 1/21/25, 4:37 AM
by JInwreck on 1/21/25, 7:04 AM
by rwmj on 1/18/25, 12:26 AM
by darkwater on 1/21/25, 3:09 PM
by liampulles on 1/21/25, 7:52 AM
by flobosg on 1/21/25, 10:25 AM
by snappr021 on 1/18/25, 11:17 AM
by dboreham on 1/21/25, 1:54 AM