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Red Hat to contribute container tech (Podman, bootc, ComposeFS...) to CNCF

by twelvenmonkeys on 11/14/24, 5:59 PM with 82 comments

  • by kuratkull on 11/14/24, 7:28 PM

    Podman actually works really well. Out-of-the-box virtually-no-configuration-needed rootless containers. It's also usable via docker-compose with a single env variable. (podman-compose wasn't up to par for us)

    We've been using it for a couple of years running and managing hundreds of containers per server - no feeling of flakiness whatsoever. It's virtually zeroconf and even supports GPUs for those who need it. It's like docker but better, IMO.

    Hope it gets a popularity boost from CNCF. Rooting for it.

  • by dbacar on 11/14/24, 8:00 PM

    To all those interested in podman, this book by Daniel Walsh is a gem. Highly recommended and it is free.

    https://developers.redhat.com/e-books/podman-action

  • by j1mc on 11/14/24, 10:35 PM

    I think people are missing the contribution of bootc and composefs. This is a big part of what undergirds Red Hat's new 'image mode' means of deployment. They're using container-related tooling to deploy whole operating systems, and it's a large part of where they're headed.

    I write this to say, "This is not them dumping abandonware." To me, it's them putting these technologies under the supervision of a neutral third party to encourage adoption.

  • by vbezhenar on 11/14/24, 8:03 PM

    Is CNCF new Apache foundation? Looks like everyone dumps their stuff there. Does not look promising. Am I missing something? Probably RedHat paid salary to podman developers, but who will pay salary to them now?
  • by NewJazz on 11/14/24, 6:42 PM

    Does podman support docker compose files well? Devs love them for local environments.
  • by RcouF1uZ4gsC on 11/14/24, 6:42 PM

    Reading about Keycloak and how long it is taking to patch critical vulnerabilities, I wonder is CNCF becoming how Apache was - where abandoned open source software goes to die.
  • by gigatexal on 11/14/24, 10:50 PM

    This is cool and all I just want to make sure podman and others are maintained and useful. I’m sure they will be it’s just that I use podman every day and depend on it.

    I could go back to docker but why?

  • by greatgib on 11/14/24, 9:57 PM

    Usually, when big orgs like that dump their projects to such a foundation (like Apache), it is that they are about to drop investing in support it soon.
  • by philipwhiuk on 11/15/24, 12:38 AM

    Hmm maybe worth switching from Docker Desktop to Podman Desktop...
  • by xer0x on 11/14/24, 6:22 PM

    What took them so long?