by Digit-Al on 11/10/24, 8:48 PM with 54 comments
by blibble on 11/10/24, 10:15 PM
they can't seriously think this can they?
who was asking for telemetry, mr robot, pocket, VPN ads, "use our email" (relay) ads, "check your accounts!!" (monitor) ads and built-in AI slop generators
and soon, more built-in ads: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/advertising/
I don't think a single user wanted any of that
at least Chrome doesn't actually show you ads directly throughout the browser's interface
by rsoto on 11/11/24, 12:59 AM
Firefox on Android used to be a really good product--it supported basically every popular extension there was for desktop, then in 2018-2019 they appeared to start a new revamped project for some reason. I downloaded the beta for it--it was rough around the corners, it had a quite short whitelist of extensions, most of the functionalities were absent, but there were a few improvements here and there. And out of nowhere, a few weeks later they made it the default.
It's been way too long and the app still feels unfinished. It crashes way too much and I can't even move around the icons for the websites in the start page. They've enabled the list of extensions recently but it's a mess. I only use it since it's where I can have uBlock origin.
It feels that every couple of years they have a golden opportunity, but somehow they never seem to know what to do.
by tetris11 on 11/10/24, 11:30 PM
by dehrmann on 11/11/24, 5:09 AM
Mozilla's leadership might have even made the right move by dabbling in other platforms and with other value propositions, but it neglected the browser to the point that it doesn't matter.
And I'm still a Firefox user.
by guerrilla on 11/10/24, 9:58 PM
by clumsysmurf on 11/11/24, 5:01 AM
In general, my UI gripes:
* Bookmarks dialog from the 90s, various usability issues
* History dialog, same
* Lack of Tab Groups, still, and no plugin has given me the experience as Safari
* Profile switcher UI is also terrible
* Still no vertical tabs
* Still nothing like Safari "tab overview"
* Miscellaneous UX fails like not being able to hover over a Tab preview and close it without switching to it (like the 'x' on List All Tabs) or close a tab by hovering over a persistent x without switching to it
* Create bookmark dialog is limited so a small size and can't fit more than a few location folder entries
* macOS : after all these years, still can't full-screen like a normal macOS app (all app bar toolbars / chrome shift when mouse)
I can't remember an interesting UI feature in at least several years.
by mossTechnician on 11/10/24, 8:54 PM
by nightowl_games on 11/11/24, 2:00 AM
I use Firefox on my android almost completely because the URL bar is at the bottom, which is simply way better.
And also reader mode is awesome.
Plus I want to support Mozilla.
by tiltowait on 11/11/24, 12:21 AM
What that looks like, I don't know. Maybe Arc (or Zen, which is like Arc for Gecko) has the right idea.
by fooker on 11/11/24, 12:50 AM
Some websites are inexplicably slow. Sometimes the whole UI freezes up for half a second.
Some of it can be explained by Google and other giants not testing their stuff on Firefox. But it really does seem like they don't have enough development bandwidth to keep up with the modern web.
by hinkley on 11/10/24, 11:35 PM
When developers had an incentive to develop Firefox-first, then users had a better experience using it.
by ranger_danger on 11/10/24, 10:00 PM
by transfire on 11/10/24, 11:32 PM
What about supporting a better hypertext meta language under a `moz:` protocol that’s only guaranteed to work with their browser?
by goalieca on 11/10/24, 10:17 PM
It seems though Mozilla fell into the “go woke go broke” trap and lost focus on their core mission.