by probablybetter on 11/2/24, 12:38 AM
I would say that bad ideas are having a heyday across all economic sectors, not only tech. You could call it the epoch of bad ideas having a heyday, if you want.
One has to be careful around opportunistic gold-rushes; if one is not actively purveying gold, one may be getting rushed.
by pessimizer on 11/2/24, 1:59 AM
Don't you have to have leverage to revolt? How do you revolt after you've been laid off? I don't understand this column. They're laying off because they've vastly overhired, and if they laid off too much (while everyone else was also laying off), they'll be able to pick people back up at a huge discount.
If programmers wanted to force companies to maintain wildly irrational staffing levels, they should have unionized a decade and a half ago when they had the leverage. There are too many programmers, now. Current innovation is high-level and academic, and maybe 2% of the people posting on HN are educated enough to ride the bleeding edge of that.
by geodel on 11/2/24, 1:40 AM
While as much I empathize with tech workers (being one of them) at this point I feel automation and efficiencies they have developed in last 3-4 decades that displaced middle class jobs and skills are now good enough to displace large chunk of tech workers themselves.
Elite tech workers at top cloud/ software based companies can vehemently disagree but for mid level IT folks at typical enterprise shops situation is far more gloomier than it was even 10 years back.
Now if these employees are ready to revolt I suspect it will most fine by employers.
by Animats on 11/2/24, 1:11 AM
Is there any good reason why about 90% of web dev, both client and server side, can't be standardized and automated? At least WYSIWYG.
by Otterknow on 11/2/24, 10:05 AM
This is just comments by engineers having a pity party, clicked on an article. Lesson for a retired 40 something VC, minus high functioning aspergers, you will be employees. Be happy with your 250k+ per year and realise you only see the business world from a small wedge that is your department and rarely understand scope unless it's drilled into you.
by penguin_booze on 11/4/24, 2:44 PM
No-one is going to revolt. Everyone's laden with debt of various kinds, children, spouse, and familial and social obligations--a burden we'll bear for the rest of our lives. One can't simply wash them off and start again. And our masters know that.
by tbrownaw on 11/2/24, 1:29 AM
So... free VC money is drying up (probably for some larger economic reasons?), and it's a lot harder to get paid to do things that don't make money? And this is a "shitshow" and means people are going to "revolt" (and do what instead?).
And somehow the latest improvement to low-code/no-code tooling (LLMs / AI) are making it all worse, maybe because they'll really for real this time finally let business-side people not need programmers.
by cratermoon on 11/1/24, 11:17 PM
Companies slashing jobs so the CEOs can get hundred million dollar payoffs.
by gitt67887yt7bg on 11/2/24, 7:13 PM
If these companies don't want to respect and retain engineers, they don't have to.
Boeing tried this strategy, and its definitely having noticable results.
by sinoue on 11/1/24, 11:11 PM
Article starts: "This has been an unprecedented period of unprovoked kicks and unkept promises for workers in the tech industry."
by tuatoru on 11/2/24, 1:41 AM
I wish corporations much joy of their AI employee replacement efforts. Much, much joy.
( /sarcasm, if it's needed.)
by damascus on 11/2/24, 12:07 AM
It takes a lot more tech staff to build a tech company than it does to run a tech company.
by zorkomatic on 11/3/24, 5:24 PM
This whole thread is pathetic. Gen-Zs threatening to "revolt" because they get fired soon after being hired for being lazy and not even having the skills to use Excel? Sure, children. You go and revolt. Fling your Legos. Stomp your feet. Flail your hands. Take some selfies at the unemployment office and post them on TikTok, the social network for tiktards. Then go back to your room at your parents house. They are the ones to blame for raising losers.