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Boeing, Union reach wage deal to end strike

by hhs on 10/19/24, 2:51 PM with 72 comments

  • by chasil on 10/19/24, 5:44 PM

  • by cyost on 10/19/24, 4:52 PM

    Article title jumps the gun. Union members still need to vote on whether to accept the deal Wednesday.

    > The union announced the deal Saturday morning, saying, “it warrants presenting to the members and is worthy of your consideration.”

    > The union plans to vote on the deal on Wednesday. Nearly 95% of workers voted to reject the last tentative deal, which the union’s leaders recommended.

  • by bloqs on 10/19/24, 7:55 PM

    They haven't reached a deal. This article is bought by boeing interests to try to force the narrative. I can't believe I am typing this

  • by aborsy on 10/19/24, 5:54 PM

    I don’t know the situation with Boeing. But unions are sort of cancers of economy, which will grow and rotten healthy institutions. Their demands will grow indefinitely, as they become more and more powerful. At some point, there is no way back.

    Look at their outcomes in France! The problems seem to be increasingly spreading to US.

  • by blackeyeblitzar on 10/19/24, 3:44 PM

    The original offer was a 25% raise over 4 years. Then Boeing offered 30% and went to the public with it. And now this deal is at 35%. The union originally asked for 40%. I know there are a lot of other details mixed up in here around bonuses and retirement benefits and job security and so on. But does this mean the union “won” this process since the number is close to what they wanted? The one big thing it looks like they aren’t getting that the original deal had is that the next model won’t be guaranteed to be built in Washington.

    Also, is it actually good for the union workers in the bigger picture? Presumably they lost one month of pay. And a lot of other (non union) people are getting laid off, who probably view the union as a bad actor. Also those tired of the union work culture in Everett may continue to leave, continuing a drain of the best talent. Boeing probably is in a more precarious position than ever before. They will likely stick to the smaller plane lineup and diversify manufacturing away from Washington and automate more. So is this really good for the union or is it just really good for the workers who are there now, since they will get the most of what they could get out of the company before they retire? To them it may not matter what the future of Boeing is past their retirement.

    Union X post: https://x.com/IAM751/status/1847641501637247081

    Deeper details of deal: http://www.iam751.org/2024StrikeProposal/