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AMD's Radeon 890M: Strix Point's Bigger iGPU

by luyu_wu on 8/24/24, 9:39 PM with 69 comments

• by Luker88 on 8/25/24, 7:33 AM

  I basically only buy AMD, but I want to point out how rocm still doesn't fully support the 780M.

  I have a laptop with a 680M and a mini pc with a 780M both beefy enough to play around with small LLM. You basically have to force the gpu detection to an older version, and I get tons of gpu resets on both.

  AMD your hardware is good please give the software more love.

• by rishav_sharan on 8/25/24, 4:01 AM

  I love how well Intel's Arc iGPU and AMDs Strix Point iGPU are doing. I am planning to get an iGPU laptop with 64 Gb RAM. I plan on using local llms and image generators and hopefully with that large of shared RAM that shouldn't be too much of a problem. But I am worried that all LLM tools today are pretty much NVidia specific, and I wouldn't be able to get my local setup going.

• by bornfreddy on 8/25/24, 9:23 AM

  Interesting:

  > With Strix Point, AMD’s mobile iGPU has a newer graphics architecture than its desktop counterparts. It’s an unprecedented situation, but not a surprising one. Since the DX11 era, AMD has never been able to take and hold the top spot in the discrete GPU market. Nvidia has been building giant chips where cost is no object for a long time, and they’re good at it. Perhaps AMD sees lower power gaming as a market segment where they can really excel. Strix Point seems to be a reflection of that.

  Did AMD figure out that this market segment is underserved by NVidia? If so, good for them, laptops could use better GPUs.

• by torrance on 8/25/24, 2:27 AM

  These results are promising and hopefully carry over to the upcoming Strix Halo which I’m eagerly awaiting. With a rumoured 40 compute cores and performance on par with a low power (<95W) mobile RTX4070, it would make an exciting small form gaming box.

• by aurareturn on 8/25/24, 3:32 PM

  Some comparisons:

  4k Aztec High GFX

  * AMD 890M: 39.1fps

  * M3: 51.8fps

  3DMark Wild Life Extreme

  * AMD 890M: 7623

  * M3: 8286

  Power:

  * AMD 890M: 46w

  * M3: 8286: 17w

  M3 about ~253% more efficient.

  But of course, if your goal is gaming, AMD's GPU will still be better because of Vulkan, DirectX, and Windows support. In pure architecture, AMD is quite a bit behind Apple.

• by mastax on 8/25/24, 3:54 PM

  How fortunate for Intel that as soon as they ruin their CPU naming scheme, AMD follow suit.

• by setgree on 8/25/24, 1:55 PM

  So what was AMD thinking with its release of the 8700G and 8600G APUs, and is it planning to phase them out?

  They come with the 780M and 680M processors, respectively, and both are outperformed by the 980M at a lower power draw [0]. Theoretically a consumer can't put these parts directly in a pc there's already a mini-pc with the laptop part 980M [1]. The 7800G sometimes shows up in mid-range and high-end gaming PCs with discrete graphics cards [2], which makes so little sense that I wonder if AMD quietly offloaded them in bulk at a steep discount to vendors.

  I've commented on this before [3], can anyone shed light on the situation?

  [0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/21485/the-amd-ryzen-ai-hx-370...

  [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/mini-pcs/soyos-upcomin...

  [2] https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/gaming-pcs/hp-omen-35l...

  [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41140287

• by Shorel on 8/25/24, 4:41 AM

  Similar performance to Nvidia 1080 dedicated GPU.

  Would I get it? Absolutely yes. A full desktop small form factor is a very convenient, nice thing.