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Boeing Starliner could brick ISS docking port if crew abandons it

by CommieBobDole on 8/9/24, 1:19 PM with 100 comments

  • by ChocolateGod on 8/9/24, 1:34 PM

    Boeing need to stop being given contracts, from the Starliner issues on top of the various scandals with the quality control of their planes, it's clear to see they have no value in human life.
  • by Aloha on 8/9/24, 1:41 PM

    I get that there is probably a desire to solely blame Boeing for this - but this seems like as much of a Project Management and integration failure on the NASA side, as it does Boeing putting defective hardware/software into orbit.

    It shouldn't have been allowed to happen, period.

    I get that what I said will not be popular, but this has been the consensus of every previous thread on this topic that I've seen - NASA is sorta playing the role of a systems integrator here, and assumes the liability for defective components from their subcontractors, and has the ultimate supervision authority to decide if something can or cannot fly.

  • by netsharc on 8/9/24, 1:55 PM

    It amuses me that of course there's a standard for docking interoperability defined:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Docking_System_S...

    And adapters:

    > The International Docking Adapter (IDA) converts older Russian APAS-95 docking systems to the International Docking System Standard

    Imagine flying all the way and then realizing you forgot your adapter...

  • by RIMR on 8/9/24, 2:25 PM

    I really want to know how a Starliner software update is going to "brick" the ISS Docking Port. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

    Jalopnik doesn't really seem like an authoritative source on this, especially since the hyperlink they included when they talk about the "Bricking" issue links to some article about simulated decompression sickness that has nothing to do with the ISS docking port...

  • by eschneider on 8/9/24, 2:24 PM

    How could they possibly screw up so badly that a SW update would brick the thing? Did they forget the logic to just reboot to last good/factory FW in case of failure?

    This feels like the story they're telling isn't the real story because that's just basic, basic shit that gets beaten on all the time during development.

  • by greenavocado on 8/9/24, 2:39 PM

    On the ground people need to build a jettison rig that they can install inside the Starliner, launch that rig with SpaceX up to the ISS, install the rig, jettison the Starliner, and finally come home with the SpaceX module. Any other way is certain death and the Russians won't help them.
  • by devoutsalsa on 8/9/24, 2:25 PM

    Maybe they can just leave it in place, cut a hole in the bottom, and install a new docking port!
  • by numpad0 on 8/9/24, 2:04 PM

    Wasn't this clarified in the teleconference that it only needs "mission load" upload, some sort of script change rather than software rebuild? The Ars article quoted seem to predate the conference. Isn't this kind of a stale news?
  • by hansvm on 8/9/24, 1:40 PM

    Hypothetically, if a private citizen bricked the ISS, what would my consequences be?
  • by ChrisArchitect on 8/9/24, 2:29 PM

  • by totaldude87 on 8/9/24, 1:34 PM

    This is just getting worser and worser. Boeing needs to get its shit in place or stop doing moon shots. Imagine if this happens on mars, #BringbackBoeing
  • by lenerdenator on 8/9/24, 1:35 PM

    How's the share price?