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Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

by terramex on 6/10/24, 6:48 PM with 1237 comments

  • by TechnicolorByte on 6/10/24, 7:00 PM

    Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life).

    The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like setting calendar and reservations or asking about someone’s flight is so useful (can’t tell you how many times my brother didn’t bother to check the flight code I sent him via message when he asks me when I’m landing for pickup!).

    I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem.

    Nevermind all the thought put into private cloud, integration with ChatGPT, the image generation playground, and Genmoji. I can genuinely see all this being useful for “the rest of us,” to quote Craig. As someone who’s taken a pessimistic view of Apple software innovation the last several years, I’m amazed.

    One caveat: the image generation of real people was super uncanny and made me uncomfortable. I would not be happy to receive one of those cold and impersonal, low-effort images as a birthday wish.

  • by Nition on 6/10/24, 9:48 PM

    Aside from the search and Siri improvements, I'm really not sure about the usefulness of all the generative stuff Apple is suggesting we might use here.

    If you spend an hour drawing a picture for someone for their birthday and send it to them, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the picture but in the fact that you went to the effort, and that it's something unique only you could produce for them by giving your time. The work is more satisfying to the creator as well - if you've ever used something you built yourself that you're proud of vs. something you bought you must have felt this. The AI image that Tania generated in a few seconds might be fun the first time, but quickly becomes just spam filling most of a page of conversation, adding nothing.

    If you make up a bedtime story for your child, starring them, with the things they're interested in, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the story but... same thing as above. I don't think Apple's idea of reading an AI story off your phone instead is going to have the same impact.

    In a world where you can have anything the value of everything is nothing.

  • by asimpletune on 6/10/24, 7:00 PM

    Their demos looked like how I imagined AI before ChatGPT ever existed. It was a personalized, context aware, deeply integrated way of interacting with your whole system.

    I really enjoyed the explanation for how they planned on tackling server-enabled AI tasks while making the best possible effort to keep your requests private. Auditable server software that runs on Apple hardware is probably as good as you can get for tasks like that. Even better would be making it OSS.

    There was one demo where you could talk to Siri about your mom and it would understand the context because of stuff that she (your mom) had written in one of her emails to you... that's the kind of stuff that I think we all imagined an AI world would look like. I'm really impressed with the vision they described and I think they honestly jumped to the lead of the pack in an important way that hasn't been well considered up until this point.

    It's not just the raw AI capabilities from the models themselves, which I think many of us already get the feeling are going to be commoditized at some point in the future, but rather the hardware and system-wide integrations that make use of those models that matters starting today. Obviously how the experience will be when it's available to the public is a different story, but the vision alone was impressive to me. Basically, Apple again understands the UX.

    I wish Apple the best of luck and I'm excited to see how their competitors plan on responding. The announcement today I think was actually subtle compared to what the implications are going to be. It's exciting to think that it may make computing easier for older people.

  • by maz1b on 6/10/24, 7:01 PM

    Gotta say, from a branding point of view, it's completely perfect. Sometimes things as "small" as the letters in a companies name can have a huge impact decades down the road. AI == AI, and that's how Apple is going to play it. That bit at the end where it said "AI for the rest of us" is a great way to capture the moment, and probably suggests where Apple is going to go.

    imo, apple will gain expertise to serve a monster level of scale for more casual users that want to generate creative or funny pictures, emojis, do some text work, and enhance quality of life. I don't think Apple will be at the forefront of new AI technology to integrate those into user facing features, but if they are to catch up, they will have to get into the forefront of the same technologies to support their unique scale.

    Was a notable WWDC, was curious to see what they would do with the Mac Studio and Mac Pro, and nothing about the M3 Ultra or M4 Ultra, or the M3/M4 Extreme.

    I also predicted that they would use their own M2 Ultras and whatnot to support their own compute capacity in the cloud, and interestingly enough it was mentioned. I wonder if we'll get more details on this front.

  • by jspann on 6/10/24, 6:58 PM

    I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "OpenAI won’t store requests" feels intentionally opaque.

    I was personally holding out for a federated learning approach where multiple Apple devices could be used to process a request but I guess the Occam's razor prevails. I'll wait and see.

  • by davidbarker on 6/10/24, 6:58 PM

    So, if I've got this correct there's:

    1. On-device AI

    2. AI using Apple's servers

    3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future)

    Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission.

    [Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]

  • by nerdjon on 6/10/24, 7:08 PM

    Said this in the other thread, but I am really bothered that image generation is a thing but also that it got as much attention as it did.

    I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations.

    That being said, the polish and actual usefulness of these features is really interesting. It may not have some of the flashiest things being thrown around but the things shown are actually useful things.

    Glad that ChatGPT is optional each time Siri thinks it would be useful.

    My only big question is, can I disable any online component and what does that mean if something can't be processed locally?

    I also have to wonder, given their talk about the servers running the same chips. Is it just that the models can't run locally or is it possibly context related? I am not seeing anything if it is entire features or just some requests.

    I wonder if that implies that over time different hardware will run different levels of requests locally vs the cloud.

  • by cube2222 on 6/10/24, 6:28 PM

    This seems really cool.

    They said the models can scale to "private cloud compute" based on Apple Silicon which will be ensured by your device to run "publicly verifiable software" in order to guarantee no misuse of your data.

    I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source? That'd be positively surprising. Curious to see how this evolves.

    Anyway, overall looks really really cool. If it works as marketed, then it will be an easy "shut up and take my money". Siri seems to finally be becoming what it was meant to be (I wonder if they're piggy-backing on top of the Shortcuts Actions catalogue to have a wide array of possible actions right away), and the image and emoji generation features that integrate with Apple Photos and other parts of the system look _really_ cool.

    It seems like it will require M1+ on Macs/iPads, or an iPhone 15 Pro.

  • by windowshopping on 6/10/24, 8:43 PM

    The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels really confusing.
  • by cube2222 on 6/10/24, 6:56 PM

    This seems really cool.

    They said the models can scale to "private cloud compute" based on Apple Silicon which will be ensured by your device to run "publicly verifiable software" in order to guarantee no misuse of your data.

    I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source? That'd be positively surprising. Curious to see how this evolves.

    Anyway, overall looks really really cool. If it works as marketed, then it will be an easy "shut up and take my money". Siri seems to finally be becoming what it was meant to be (I wonder if they're piggy-backing on top of the Shortcuts Actions catalogue to have a wide array of possible actions right away), and the image and emoji generation features that integrate with Apple Photos and other parts of the system look _really_ cool.

    It seems like it will require M1+ on Macs/iPads, or an iPhone 15 Pro.

  • by htrp on 6/10/24, 8:08 PM

    > Apple Intelligence is free for users, and will be available in beta as part of iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia this fall in U.S. English. Some features, software platforms, and additional languages will come over the course of the next year. Apple Intelligence will be available on iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, and iPad and Mac with M1 and later, with Siri and device language set to U.S. English. For more information, visit apple.com/apple-intelligence.

    iphone 15 Pro 8 GB RAM (https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_15_pro-12557.php)

    iphone 15 6 GB Ram (https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_15-12559.php)

  • by doawoo on 6/10/24, 8:24 PM

    Happy as long as there is a switch to toggle it all off somewhere. I find very little of this useful. Maybe someone does, and that’s great!

    And my concern isn’t from a privacy perspective, just a “I want less things cluttering my screen” perspective.

    So far though it looks like it’s decent at being opt-in in nature. So that’s all good.

  • by jl6 on 6/10/24, 7:46 PM

    I can see people using Rewrite all the time. In the grim darkness of the AI future, your friends speak only in language that is clean, sanitized, HR-approved, and soulless.
  • by PodgieTar on 6/10/24, 6:40 PM

    Few thoughts:

    It seems like this is what Rabbit's LAM was supposed to be. It is interesting to see it work, and I wonder how it will work in practice. I'm not sold on using voice for interacting with things still.

    Image Generation is gross, I really didn't want this. I am not excited to start seeing how many horrible AI images I'm going to get sent.

    I like Semantic Search in my photos.

    This does seem like the typical Apple polish.I think this might be the first main stream application of Gen AI that I can see catching on.

  • by nsbk on 6/10/24, 6:38 PM

    This on-device, private cloud compute, and tight hardware-software integration take may be first useful for all genAI we’ve seen so far.

    Apple may have actually nailed this one.

    Edit: except for image generation. That one sucks

  • by doctoboggan on 6/10/24, 6:45 PM

    Apple trying to rebrand AI = "Apple Intelligence" is a totally Apple thing to do.

    I'll be curious to see if Apple gets caught with some surprise or scandal from unexpected behavior in their generative models. I expect that the rollout will be smoother than Bing or Google's first attempts, but I don't think even Apple will prove capable of identifying and mitigating all possible edge cases.

    I noticed during the livestream that the re-write feature generated some pretty bad text, with all the hallmarks of gen AI content. That's not a good sign for this feature, especially considering they thought it was good enough to include in the presentation.

  • by nottorp on 6/10/24, 6:54 PM

    I have only one question: can I turn it off?
  • by nerdjon on 6/10/24, 6:35 PM

    I am pretty unhappy with Apple doing the image generation, was really hoping that just would not happen.

    But a lot of the other features actually seem useful without feeling shoehorned in. At least so far.

    I am hoping that I can turn off the ability to use a server while keeping local processing, but curious what that would actually look like. Would it just say "sorry can't do that" or something? Is it that there is too much context and it can't happen locally or entire features that only work in the cloud?

    Edit:

    OK how they handle the ChatGPT integration I am happy with. Asks me each time if I want to do it.

    However... using recipe generation as an example... is a choice.

  • by burningChrome on 6/10/24, 7:24 PM

    Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives?

    I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

  • by hawski on 6/10/24, 9:09 PM

    This ramping up AI war will leave no prisoners. I am not an Apple customer in any way, I am in Google's ecosystem, but I feel that I need to make an exit, at least some essentials, preferably this year.

    My e-mail, my documents, my photos, my browsing, my movement. The first step for me was setting up Syncthing and it was much smoother than I initially thought. Many steps to go.

  • by ayakang31415 on 6/10/24, 7:02 PM

    There was one part that I didn't understand about AI compute: For certain tasks, server side compute will be done as on-device chip is not powerful enough I suppose. How does this ensure privacy in verifiable manner? How do you CONFIRM that your data is not shared when cloud computing is involved with AI tasks?
  • by mfiguiere on 6/10/24, 6:52 PM

    > Privacy protections are built in for users who access ChatGPT — their IP addresses are obscured, and OpenAI won’t store requests. ChatGPT’s data-use policies apply for users who choose to connect their account.

    > ChatGPT will come to iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia later this year, powered by GPT-4o.

  • by whalee on 6/10/24, 7:18 PM

    I am deeply disturbed they decided to go off-device for these services to work. This is a terrible precedent, seemingly inconsistent with their previous philosophies and likely a pressured decision. I don't care if they put the word "private" in there or have an endless amount of "expert" audits. What a shame.
  • by karaterobot on 6/10/24, 7:02 PM

    > Apple sets a new standard for privacy in AI,

    That does not necessarily mean better, just different. I reserve judgment until I see how it shakes out.

    but if I don't like this feature, and can't turn it off, I guess it's sadly back to Linux on my personal laptops.

  • by nkotov on 6/10/24, 6:52 PM

    While I think it's cool and I appreciate Apple crafting better stories on why this is helpful, I still think for the everyday person, they won't really care if it's AI or not.
  • by algesten on 6/10/24, 6:55 PM

    "Semantic Index" sure is a better name than "Recall". Question is whether I can exfiltrate all my personal data in seconds?
  • by the_arun on 6/10/24, 6:59 PM

    Wouldn't this reduce sales for Grammerly? If Apple packs the same feature for every application in iOS, it is kinda cool.

    Private Cloud - Isn't this what Amazon did with their tablet - Fire? What is the difference with Apple Private Cloud?

  • by JohnMakin on 6/10/24, 6:58 PM

    I am excited to try Siri with this technology enabled. I can't really remember a time when siri ever really worked, although recently I actually got her to play a song on youtube for me after a few attempts and was pretty pleased with that. Outside of "set my alarm for 4:30" kind of stuff, she's never really been that useful, and if you are even kind of disabled, this feature can be really useful to the point of life changing if it is done properly.
  • by skilled on 6/10/24, 6:55 PM

    They did a lot of work for this release, and the number of integrations is beyond what I expected. In a few years time you might not need to hold your phone at all and just get everything done with voice - kind of cool, actually.

    Auto transcripts for calls (with permission) is another feature I really liked.

    I was a little surprised to see/hear no mention of inaccuracies, but for ChatGPT they did show the "Check for important facts" notice.

  • by TIPSIO on 6/10/24, 6:57 PM

    So the future of computing really is AI agents doing everything:

    - siri text chat now on the lock screen

    - incoming a billion developer app functions/APIs

    - better notifications

    - can make network requests

    Why even open any other app?

  • by KolmogorovComp on 6/10/24, 6:34 PM

    The WWDC is still ongoing and the stream can be followed here: https://www.apple.com/apple-events/event-stream/

    (Sharing because I had trouble finding it).

  • by ryankrage77 on 6/10/24, 9:26 PM

    The image generation seems really bad. Very creepy, offputting, uncanny-valley images. And that's the the best cherry-picked examples for marketing.

    I'm curious to try some of the Siri integrations - though I hope Siri retains a 'dumb mode' for simple tasks.

  • by teolandon on 6/10/24, 6:53 PM

    I wish there was a way to leverage my M1 Mac to use this on my iPhone Pro 14. Like a private connection between my phone and computer to use the more powerful chip, even if it's limited to when I'm at home on the same Wi-Fi. Latency shouldn't be too bad.

    But I think Apple is going to limit iPhones from doing something like that to boost sales of the 15 Pro and the future gens.

  • by thimabi on 6/10/24, 7:09 PM

    Oh, well, many apps will have a hard time competing with “Apple Intelligence” features. Why bother downloading a third-party app if some feature you want is included by default in the OS?

    Better yet, no more dealing with overpriced subscriptions or programs that do not respect user privacy.

    Kudos to the Apple software team making useful stuff powered by machine learning and AI!

  • by throwaway71271 on 6/10/24, 7:00 PM

    Amazing how Microsoft, Google and now Apple are racing to 'generate' more and more text and images, and they also race to 'summarize' the now generated texts because everything is just noise. Like an anxious digital beehive.

    By the end of the year maybe 1% of the content you interact with will be human made.

    Even now in HN maybe 20-30% of the comments are generated by various transformers, but it seems every input box on every OS now has a context aware 'generate' button, so I suspect it will be way more in few months.

    The Eternal September is coming. (and by ironic coincidence it might actually be in September haha)

  • by markus_zhang on 6/10/24, 8:58 PM

    TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through.

    I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) to wake up and let us automate them.

    Do you know that my family doctor ONLY take calls? Like in the 1970s I guess? Do you know it takes hours to reach a government office, and they work maybe 6 hours a day? The whole world is f**ing sleeping, IT people, hey guys, slow down on killing yourselves.

    AI is supposed to get rid of the chores, now it leaves us with the chores and take the creative part away. I don't need such AI.

  • by dombili on 6/10/24, 7:20 PM

    None of these features seem to be coming to Vision Pro, which I think is quite baffling. Arguably it's the device that can use them the most.
  • by rdl on 6/10/24, 10:04 PM

    I'm super excited about how the apple private compute cloud stuff works -- I tried to build this using intel TXT (predecessor of SGX) and then SGX, and Intel has fucked up so hard and for so long that I'm excited by any new silicon for this. AWS Nitro is really the direct competition, but having good APIs which let app developers do stuff on-device and in some trustworthy/private cloud in a fairly seamless way might be the key innovation here.
  • by xnx on 6/10/24, 7:05 PM

    Credit where credit is due for co-opting the components of the "AI" acronym.
  • by PodgieTar on 6/10/24, 6:44 PM

    It is funny to think about how many Apps have probably built text-generation into their product, just to get it enabled on Apple Devices for free.
  • by visarga on 6/10/24, 6:49 PM

    It's either "Apple Intelligence" or "Generative Intelligence", not "Artificial Intelligence" and "Generative Models"... so silly to brand common ideas with a small twist.

    Basically all your information is sucked into a semantic system, and your apps are accessible to a LLM. All with closed models and trusted auditors.

    Also funny how they pretend it's a great breakthrough when Siri was stupid-Siri for so many years and only now is lately coming to the AI party.

    I really hope those gen-images won't be used to ridicule and bully other people. I think it's kind of daring to use images of known people without their consent, relying on the idea that you know them.

    And it's dawning on me that we are already neck-deep in AI. It's flowing through every app and private information. They obliterate any privacy in this system, for the model.

  • by milansuk on 6/10/24, 7:16 PM

    This looks cool for v1! The only problem I see is most devices don't have much RAM, so local models are small and most requests will go to the servers.

    Apple could use it to sell more devices - every new generation can have more RAM = more privacy. People will have real reason to buy a new phone more often.

  • by whoiscroberts on 6/10/24, 8:08 PM

    For anyone who is technical and wants to play with AI but doesn’t want to use cloud services it’s worth digging into LangChain, CrewAI, OpenDevin. Coupled with Ollama to serve the inference from your local network. You can scratch the AI itch without getting in bed with OpenAI.
  • by losvedir on 6/10/24, 7:52 PM

    > Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud Compute cryptographically ensures that iPhone, iPad, and Mac do not talk to a server unless its software has been publicly logged for inspection.

    Technically, the sentence could be read that experts inspect the code, and the client uses TLS and CA's to ensure it's only talking to those Apple servers. But that's pretty much the status quo and uninteresting.

    It sounds like they're trying to say that somehow iPhone ensures that it's only talking to a server that's running audited code? That would be absolutely incredible (for more things than just running LLMs), but I can't really imagine how it would be implemented.

  • by shepherdjerred on 6/10/24, 6:32 PM

    I'm so happy about this. Siri has great voice recognition and voice synthesis, but it really struggled with intent, context, and understanding what I wanted it to do.

    Combining the existing aspects of Siri with an LLM will, I expect, make it the best voice assistant available.

  • by newhaus1994 on 6/10/24, 6:53 PM

    the natural language tasking for actions between apps is the first thing that's made me excited about anything related to the latest AI craze. if apple can keep it actually private/secure, I'm looking forward to this.
  • by dwighttk on 6/11/24, 11:40 AM

    If I can just get Siri to control music in my car I will be happy.

    Hey siri play classical work X a randomly selected version starts playing

    Hey siri play a different version same version keeps playing

    Hey siri play song X some random song that might have one similar keyword in the lyrics starts playing

    No play song X I don’t understand

    Hey siri play the rangers game do you mean hockey or baseball?

    Only one is playing today and I’ve favorited the baseball team and you always ask me this and I always answer baseball I can’t play that audio anyway

    >car crashes off of bridge

    (All sequences shortened by ~5 fewer tries at different wordings to get Siri to do what I want)

  • by blixt on 6/10/24, 9:08 PM

    Did I miss the explanation of how they trained their image generation models? It's brave of a company serving creative professionals to generate creative works with AI. I'm a fan of using generative AI, but I would have expected them to at least say a little about what they trained on to make their diffusion models capable of generating these images.

    Other than that, using an LLM to handle cross-app functionality is music to my ears. That said, it's similar to what was originally promised with Siri etc. initially. I do believe this technology can do it good enough to be actually useful though.

  • by menacingly on 6/10/24, 6:43 PM

    The privacy conversation was pretty shady, and honestly full of technical holes with pointless misleading distractions
  • by alberth on 6/10/24, 6:57 PM

    Regarding OpenAI, has Apple in its history ever relied so heavily on a 3rd party for software features?

    (TSMC for hardware, but it seems very un-Apple to be so dependent upon someone else for software capabilities like OpenAI)

  • by xrisk on 6/10/24, 6:58 PM

    It seems that the Apple intelligence stuff will be 15 Pro. Man, I just bought a 15 ~8 months ago. That really sucks.
  • by rasengan on 6/10/24, 6:55 PM

    There has never been a better time to move to Linux. Have you tried Omakub? Manjaro? Mint? Ubuntu 24? These are polished and complete alternatives and your favorite app probably has a Linux build already!
  • by machinekob on 6/10/24, 7:04 PM

    Microsoft Recall => bad. Apple Recall => good.
  • by r0m4n0 on 6/10/24, 7:00 PM

    Big partnership for OpenAI. Incredible Apple decided to integrate with a third party like this directly into the OS. This feels like something Apple could have executed well by themselves. I was hoping they weren't going to outsource but I suppose the rumors while they were shopping around were true.

    I think this further confirms that they think these AI services are a commodity that they don't feel a need to compete with for the time being.

  • by Tomte on 6/10/24, 6:52 PM

    No transcripts in Voice Memos? The one feature I was surprised hasn‘t already been there for years, heavily rumored before this WWDC, and now nothing?
  • by nsxwolf on 6/10/24, 8:03 PM

    "AI for the rest of us" is an interesting resurrection of the "The computer for the rest of us" Macintosh slogan from 1984.
  • by a_petrov on 6/10/24, 11:15 PM

    What would be interesting for me is, if I can develop an app for, let's say macOS, and expose its context to Siri (with Intelligence) in an easy way.

    For example:

    Imagine a simple Amazon price tracker I have in my menu bar. I pick 5 products that I want to have their price tracked. I want that info to be exposed to Siri too. And then I can simply ask Siri a tricky question: "Hey Siri, check Amazon tracker app, and tell me if it's a good moment to buy that coffee machine." I'd even expect Siri to get me that data from my app and be able to send it over my email. It doesn't sound like rocket science.

    In the end of the day, the average user doesn't like writing with a chatbot. The average user doesn't really like reading (as it could be overwhelming). But the average user could potentially like an assistant that offloads some basic tasks that are not mission critical.

    By mission critical I mean asking the next best AI assistant to buy you a plane ticket.

  • by duskhorizon2 on 6/10/24, 8:39 PM

    Some generative AI features are quite useful. I’m already using AI to generate icons for my apps and write nonsense legalese. But one thing when I explicitly creating image by prompting at the third-party server, and another when AI index and upload all my private documents in the cloud. Apple promised: “Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud Compute cryptographically ensures that iPhone, iPad, and Mac do not talk to a server unless its software has been publicly logged for inspection.” There are so many questions: Who’re these experts? Can myself be this expert? Will the server software be open sourced? Well, I will postpone my fears until Apple rolls out AI on devices, but now I see this is a privacy nightmare. Now it’s all looks like Microsoft’s Recall. I afraid that without homogeneous encryption private cloud is a sad joke.
  • by hartator on 6/10/24, 10:00 PM

    It’s a little messy.

    Local LLMs + Apple Private Cloud LLMs + OpenAI LLMs. It’s like they can’t decide on one solution. Feels very not Apple.

  • by lz400 on 6/10/24, 10:45 PM

    I suppose it was to be expected by IMHO this takes the wind out of the sails of the OpenAI / Apple deal. In the end they don't let OpenAI get into the internals of iOS / Siri, it's just a run of the mill integration. They actually are competing with ChatGPT and I assume eventually they expect to replace it and cancel the integration.

    The OpenAI integration also seems setup to data mine ChatGPT. They will have data that says Customer X requested question Q and got answer A from Siri, which he didn't like and went to ChatGPT instead, and got answer B, which he liked. Ok, there's a training set.

    I'm always wrong in prediction and will be wrong here but I'd expect openAI is a bad spot long term, doesn't look like they have a product strong enough to withstand the platform builders really going in AI. Once Siri works well, you will never open ChatGPT again.

  • by Aerbil313 on 6/10/24, 9:45 PM

    About time. I was saying that Apple is cooking these features, especially intelligent Siri, for the past 1.5 years. It was obvious really.

    You can clearly see only people objecting to this new technological integration are the people who don't have a use case for it yet. I am a college student and I can immediately see how me and my friends will be using these features. All of us have ChatGPT installed and subscribed already. We need to write professionally to our professors in e-mail. A big task is to locate a document sent over various communication channels.

    Now is the time you'll see people speaking to their devices on street. As an early adopter using the dumb Siri and ChatGPT voice chat far more than average person, it has always been weird to speak to your phone in public. Surely the normalization will follow the general availability soon after.

  • by mihaaly on 6/10/24, 9:34 PM

    I can't wait until making tools for users will be the centerpiece of device development again instead of this corporate crap enforcement about half cooked whatevers acting on our behalf pretending to be a different us (I intentionally avoid the word intelligence, it is the mockery of the word that is going on all around).

    Who will trust in anything coming from anyone through electonic channels? Not me. Sooner start to talk to a teddy bear or a yellow rubber duck.

    This is a bad and dangerous tendency that corporate biggheads piss up with glares and fanfares so the crowd get willing to drink with amaze.

    The whole text is full of corporate bullsh*t, hollow and cloudy stock phrases from a thick pipe - instead of facts or data - a generative cloud computing server room could pour at us without a shread of thoughts.

  • by TIPSIO on 6/10/24, 6:45 PM

    It was a very quick mention, but Siri will now have a text button directly on the lock screen.

    If we assume AI will get even 3-4x better, at a certain point, I can't help but think this is the future of computing.

    Most users on mobile won't even need to open other apps.

    We really are headed for agents doing mostly everything for us.

  • by resfirestar on 6/10/24, 9:30 PM

    The Image Playground demos contrast pretty strongly, in a bad way, with how image generation startups like Stability typically emphasize scifi landscapes and macro images in their marketing material. We're more open to strange color palettes and overly glossy looking surfaces in those types of images, so they're a good fit for current models that can run on smaller GPUs. Apple's examples of real people and places, on the other hand, look like they're deep in uncanny valley and I'm shocked anyone wanted them in a press release. More than any other feature announced today, that felt like they just got on the hype bandwagon and shipped image generation features to please AI-hungry investors, not create anything real people want to use.
  • by minimaxir on 6/10/24, 6:52 PM

    The name and attempted reappropriation of the term "AI" is going to make SEO a pain in the ass.
  • by kaba0 on 6/10/24, 7:21 PM

    I think this will be a complete game changer. This will be the first device (with reasonable capabilities) where the human-machine interaction can transform into an actual instruction/command only one. We no longer just choose between a set of predefined routes, but ask the machine to choose for us. If it really does work out even half as good as they show, this will fundamentally alter our connection to tech, basically having created “intelligence” known from our previous century sci-fi tales.

    Of course LLMs will quickly show their bounds, like they can’t reason, etc - but for the everyday commands people might ask their phones this probably won’t matter much. The next generation will have a very different stance towards tech than we do.

  • by GeekyBear on 6/10/24, 7:27 PM

    One thing that I found thoughtful was that images could only be generated as cartoons, sketches or animations. There was no option for a more photorealistic style.

    That seems like an effective guardrail if you don't want people trying to pass off AI generated images as real.

  • by zmmmmm on 6/10/24, 11:02 PM

    It's interesting to see Apple essentially throw in the towel on on-device compute. I fully expected them to announce a stupendous custom AI processor that would do state of the art LLMs entirely local. Very curious if they are seeing this as a temporary concession or if they are making a fundamental strategic shift here.

    The problem is, regardless how hard they try, I just don't believe their statements on their private AI cloud. Primarily because it's not under their control. If governments or courts want that data they are a stroke of the pen away from getting it. Apple just can't change that - which is why it is surprising for me to see them give up on local device computing.

  • by seabass on 6/10/24, 8:29 PM

    Adding ai features to the right-click menu is something I’ve been working on for the past year or so, and it’s always both exciting and disappointing to see one of the big players adopt a similar feature natively. I do strongly believe in the context menu being a far better ux than copying and pasting content into ChatGPT, but this release does have me questioning how much more effort to expend on my side project [1]. It doesn’t seem like Apple will support custom commands, history, RAG, and other features, so perhaps there is still space for a power-user version of what they will provide.

    [1] https://smudge.ai

  • by breadwinner on 6/10/24, 6:48 PM

    The worst part of Apple Intelligence is that it will now be a layer in between you and your friends & family. Every message will now be "cleaned up" by Apple Intelligence so you are not directly talking with your mom, best friend etc.
  • by sc077y on 6/11/24, 8:53 AM

    Impressive not technically because nothing here is new but because it's the first real implementation for the average end consumers of "ai". You have semantic indexing which allows series to basically retrieve context for any query. You have image gen which gives you emojigen or messaging using genAI images. TextGen within emails. UX is world class as usual.

    However, The GPT integration feels forced and even dare I say unnecessary. My guess is that they really are interested in the 4o voice model, and they're expecting openAI to remain the front runner in the ai race.

  • by Hippocrates on 6/10/24, 7:26 PM

    The OpenAI/ChatGPT part of this looks pretty useless. Similar to what some shortcuts like “hey data” already do. I was shocked, and relieved that Apple isn't relying on their APIs more. Seems like a big L for OpenAI.
  • by abaymado on 6/11/24, 12:07 AM

    I really just want Siri to perform simple tasks without me giving direct line-by-line orders. For example, I often use Siri to add reminders to my Calendar app but forget to mention the word “calendar” or replace it with “remind me,” and Siri ends up adding it to the Reminders app instead of the Calendar app. I want Siri to have an explicit memory that every time I use the phrase “remind me,” I want the task done in my Calendar app. Additionally, if most apps end up adopting App Intents like OpenAI’s Function Calling, I see a bright future for Siri.
  • by abrichr on 6/10/24, 7:02 PM

    > With onscreen awareness, Siri will be able to understand and take action with users’ content in more apps over time. For example, if a friend texts a user their new address in Messages, the receiver can say, “Add this address to his contact card.”

    I wonder how they will extend this to business processes that are not in their training set. At https://openadapt.ai we rely on users to demonstrate tasks, then have the model analyze these demonostrations in order to automate them.

  • by riversflow on 6/10/24, 6:46 PM

    > coming to iPhone 15 pro, iPad and Mac with M1 or later.

    I assume it will come to all the iPhone 16’s this fall? Or is Apple Intelligence a Pro Feature?

    Either way, my first reaction is that this is going to sell a lot of iPhones.

  • by vessenes on 6/10/24, 7:45 PM

    I wonder what if any Developer support for “AI” — I need a better way to write that — ahem I - will have for accessing the personal data store. I’ve spent the last four years running up at collecting this data about myself, and, it’s hard, real hard to do a good job at it.

    I’d love to have an app I write be able to subscribe to this stream.

    It feels like a sort of perfect moat for Apple - they could say no on privacy concerns, and lock out an entire class of agent type app competitors at the same time. Well, here’s hoping I can get access to the “YouSDK” :)

  • by rock_artist on 6/11/24, 9:46 AM

    What's not clear to me during that time is, how will this work on pre-M1 / pre-iPhone 15 devices. (also worth noting that iPhone 14 Pro is almost identical to iPhone 15 in terms of CPU... which is odd, especially when someone bought "Pro" tier...)

    If I have some "AI" workflow on my MacBook Pro and then it's broken on my iPhone, I would most likely to entirely stop using it, as it's unexpected (I cannot trust it) or in Apple words... lack continuity...

  • by fdpdkf on 6/10/24, 8:27 PM

    I find the removing people from photos thing creepy. Yes you can remove others to see only your family, but forging the reality to only conform to what you wish is disturbing I think.
  • by coolg54321 on 6/11/24, 1:03 PM

    As a pixel user I'm really impressed with their cleanup tool, it looks way ahead in UX compared to magic editor on pixel, also having able to select the distractions without altering the main object looks really cool (at least in their demo), magic editor on pixel's underpowered SoC runs too slow, In general iphones have superior hardware vs pixel (as per the benchmarks) so having this on-device should make it really nice experience overall.
  • by bigyikes on 6/10/24, 6:41 PM

    My home is filled with Apple HomePods even though Siri is dumb as rocks.

    Looking forward to my house gaining a few IQ points.

    I don’t see anything that mentions HomePod specifically but hopefully the updates will come.

  • by cjk2 on 6/10/24, 6:40 PM

    This stuff will be well integrated, is useful, will be high quality and doesn't require you to buy new hardware.

    Microsoft are so boned. They don't even have a mobile proposition.

  • by LelouBil on 6/11/24, 12:08 AM

    So, this looks great, but I don't get the criticism against Microsoft Recall and not against this.

    Can someone explain what Apple has avoided that were such a problem with Recall ?

  • by mark_l_watson on 6/11/24, 3:01 AM

    While I really enjoyed the “Apple-ification of AI” in the keynote today, I have been hoping for a purely personal AI ecosystem, one that I run on my own computer, using the open weight models I choose, and using open source libraries to make writing my own glue and application code easier.

    The good news is that consumers can buy into Apple’s or Google’s AI solutions, and the relatively few of us who want to build our own experience can do so.

  • by thomasqbrady on 6/10/24, 6:54 PM

    I’m super confused.

    1. What is under the “Apple Intelligence” umbrella and what isn’t? There were a lot of AI features shown before that branding was brought up, I think. 2. The only supported iPhone is the iPhone 15 Pro? But any M1 iPad? Does this mean “Apple Intelligence” or all AI features announced? For instance… 3. For instance, is private cloud compute only available on iPhone 15 Pro?

  • by skc on 6/10/24, 6:56 PM

    Calling it Apple Intelligence seems a bit short sighted to me considering how quickly things are moving in this space.

    There's a danger that before long, the stuff Apple will take ages to implement into their devices will seem dated compared to the state of the art less encumbered players will be rolling out.

    I felt that a few times watching them demo image generation and contextual conversations.

  • by pastyboy on 6/11/24, 7:22 AM

    Well on the one hand its very interesting... on the other a little dystopian, but I guess I am a luddite.

    Everyone now will appear to be of a certain intelligence with proscribed viewpoints, this is going to make face to face interviews interesting, me, I think I'll carry on with my imperfections and flawed opinions, being human may become a trend again.

  • by mensetmanusman on 6/10/24, 9:49 PM

    “With onscreen awareness, Siri will be able to understand and take action with users’ content in more apps over time. For example, if a friend texts a user their new address in Messages, the receiver can say, “Add this address to his contact card.””

    Little annoyances like this being fixed would be great. “Open the address on this page in google maps” better work :)

  • by iandanforth on 6/10/24, 9:20 PM

    I think the only way I would trust this is if they explicitly described how they would combat 5-eyes surveillance. If you're not willing to acknowledge that the most dangerous foe of privacy in the western world is the governments of the western world then why should I believe anything you have to say about your implementation?
  • by czierleyn on 6/10/24, 7:23 PM

    Nice, but my native language is Dutch, so I'll be waiting for this for the next 5 years to arrive. If it arrives at all.
  • by adrianmsmith on 6/11/24, 9:19 AM

    It seems they didn't address hallucination at all?

    Presumably this hallucinates as much as any other AI (if it didn't, they'd have mentioned that).

    So how can you delegate tasks to something that might just invent stuff, e.g. you ask it to summarize an email and it tells you stuff that's not in the original email?

  • by resharpe105 on 6/10/24, 8:30 PM

    Key question is, will there be a hard switch to only ever use on device processing?

    If not, and if you don’t want practically every typed word to end up on someone else’s computer (as cloud is just that), you’ll have to drop ios.

    As for me that leaves me with a choice between dumbphone or grapheneOS. I’m just thrilled with these choices. :/

  • by block_dagger on 6/10/24, 7:11 PM

    I wonder if the (free) ChatGPT integration will be so good that I won't need my dedicated subscription anymore?
  • by ilaksh on 6/10/24, 6:33 PM

    When does this roll out exactly? And exactly which inference actually is on-device?

    I think people have been fooled by marketing for this one and the new Co-Pilot PCs into thinking that most of the AI really is running on-device. The models that run fast locally are still fairly limited compared to what runs in the cloud.

  • by lambdasmith on 6/10/24, 6:49 PM

    How is this going to affect battery life realistically with all the semantic indexing going on in the background?
  • by astrodust on 6/10/24, 6:34 PM

    At some point I wonder if Apple might share compute across your devices so you can do things on low-power hardware like the Watch while leveraging the CPU on the phone, etc. If Apple's dedicated to on-device compute, this ends up being your own "private cloud" of sorts.
  • by ChrisLTD on 6/10/24, 6:52 PM

    What Apple showed in the demo looks tastefully done. The jury is out on how useful it will be in day to day use, but it'll be nice to have the ability to ask AI for help with text, search, and images without resorting to copying and pasting between ChatGPT or some other AI app.
  • by mvkel on 6/10/24, 7:08 PM

    Kind of wild that "ChatGPT" is going to be the household term. It's such a mouthful! Goes to show that the name can kind of be anything if you have an incredible product and/or distribution.

    Lobbying for the name to shorten to "chatty-g"

  • by xnx on 6/10/24, 9:01 PM

    Interesting that genmoji seems to recreate the functionality of this SDXL LoRA https://civitai.com/models/140968/emoji-xl
  • by jcfrei on 6/10/24, 6:30 PM

    So, is Apple running a proprietary LLM or are they licensing one from OpenAI, Google, etc?
  • by 29athrowaway on 6/10/24, 7:25 PM

    We know the solution to the AI box experiment[1]. Set the AI free and make money.

    [1]: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/AI-box_experiment

  • by WillAdams on 6/10/24, 7:05 PM

    Nice to finally see a follow on to the Assistant feature from the Newton MessagePad.
  • by rys on 6/10/24, 6:27 PM

    So was there ever a deal with OpenAI? Nothing in the keynote mentioned them or needs them. If there isn’t a deal, I’d love to know how everyone claiming it was signed on the dotted line was led so far down that garden path.
  • by matrix87 on 6/11/24, 3:13 PM

    the thing with "I have xyz ingredients, help me plan a 5-course meal for every taste bud"... I get the idea, it just doesn't feel like that's how people actually interact with computers. similarly with the bed time story thing. why would anyone waste time with some AI generated thing when they can just reference the works of a chef or author that they already know?

    appropriating all of this information through legally dubious means and then attempting to replace the communication channels that produced it in the first place is hubris.

  • by layer8 on 6/10/24, 7:46 PM

    No multilingual capabilities it seems: https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/#footnote-1
  • by blackeyeblitzar on 6/11/24, 12:04 AM

    The AI wave is showing us that the gains will keep going to the big tech companies and competition doesn’t really exist, not even at this moment. They need to be broken up and taxed heavily.
  • by jbverschoor on 6/10/24, 6:53 PM

    Looks like a very similar strategy as Google Maps on the initial iPhone
  • by ahmeneeroe-v2 on 6/10/24, 6:54 PM

    For a brief moment at the intro of "private cloud compute" I was so hopeful that I could have a home-based Mac server for my own private iCloud and "Apple intelligence".
  • by adamtaylor_13 on 6/10/24, 8:49 PM

    This is literally everything I've been hoping Siri would be since the very first GPT-3.5 demo over a year ago. I've never been more bullish on the Apple ecosystem. So exciting!
  • by m3kw9 on 6/11/24, 1:09 AM

    All the talk is sounding real nice, it’s when it comes out we will see how much context it can see and how accurate it knows what the user says. Gonna be fun few weeks of reviews.
  • by mav3ri3k on 6/10/24, 6:41 PM

    Really excited about semantic index. This should allow for google knowledge graph like features grounded in reality for their llm. However it really depends how well it works.
  • by DaveChurchill on 6/10/24, 6:59 PM

    Great! How do I opt out?
  • by qmmmur on 6/10/24, 9:54 PM

    Did they touch on any AI features that might be able to help me create shortcuts? I really like them, but hate creating them with the kludgy block-based diagrams.
  • by zombiwoof on 6/10/24, 11:43 PM

    Apple promising in 8-12 months what others have today. Although Apple marketed it better.

    Google didn't have the brass balls to call it "Alphabet Intelligence" !!!

  • by jshowa on 6/11/24, 2:06 PM

    Microsoft delivers AI recall Everyone hates it Apple integrates AI into every facet of a device that is highly personal Everyone loves it

    Please make it make sense.

  • by dt3ft on 6/11/24, 5:11 AM

    Thanks but no thanks.

    All I wish for is user-replaceable battery and a battery lasting for at least 2 full days.

    If I can’t opt out from any of this, this is where I stop using an iPhone.

  • by guhcampos on 6/10/24, 10:05 PM

    Somehow all these news about Apple Intelligence don't really make me thinkg about Apple, but just how bad Intel just lost the branding battle forever.
  • by zx10rse on 6/10/24, 8:39 PM

    Jumping on the chatgpt hype train is a mistake. I don't want anything from my devices to be accessible by openai. It will bite them back big time.
  • by RyanAdamas on 6/10/24, 8:12 PM

    >Be me, have iPhone 6s

    >Can't get many apps these days

    >Can't use AI apps at all

    >Battery last about 2 hours

    >Never used iCloud, barely used iTunes

    >Apple announces new "free" Ai Assistant for everyone

    well...not everyone

  • by maxioatic on 6/10/24, 6:48 PM

    I might have missed it but did they mention Spotlight at all? That'd be pretty sweet if Spotlight becomes more useful (even a little bit)
  • by mihaaly on 6/10/24, 9:20 PM

    Cloud compute and privacy in the same sentence, this is a new low bar for corporate bull*hit. Almost worse than the Windows Recall nonsense.
  • by baxuz on 6/11/24, 3:06 PM

    I really hope that they'll enable other, less spoken languages. I'm not planning on talking with my phone in English.
  • by boringg on 6/10/24, 6:42 PM

    So is this finally privacy based AI with personal memory included? Ie bespoke AI for your own stack that isn't out in the world.
  • by dragon_greens on 6/10/24, 6:52 PM

    I wonder if this will become a paid feature or part of iCloud+ later on. Or do they expect it to be mostly on device models driven?
  • by ENGNR on 6/10/24, 10:39 PM

    Ok I'm calling it. If NVIDIA releases a phone, and allows you to buy the hardware for the off-device processing too, I'll fully ditch Apple in a heartbeat.

    I'm quite creeped out that it uses off-device processing for a personal context, and you can't host your own off-device processing, even if you have top of the line Apple silicon hardware (laptop or desktop) that could step in and do the job. Hopefully they announce it in one of the talks over the next few days.

  • by todotask on 6/11/24, 2:20 PM

    Sequoia with 'ai', coinciding with Apple Intelligence, is a cleverly chosen code name for this release.
  • by mellosouls on 6/10/24, 7:01 PM

    Given there is no mention of "Artificial" is this Apple rebranding AI, the same as they did AR a year ago?
  • by dakiol on 6/10/24, 8:23 PM

    I didn't watch the whole thing (will do), but could someone tell me already: can it be disabled on a Mac?
  • by m3kw9 on 6/10/24, 6:54 PM

    So they have models running on Apple silicone in the cloud, does that mean it’s running its own models?
  • by mrkramer on 6/10/24, 7:34 PM

    Is it just me or this AI rush is actually about to ruin user experience both on Apple and Microsoft devices? The extra layer of complexity for users who will now be introduced to endless AI features is bloatware in the making.
  • by __loam on 6/10/24, 8:24 PM

    Hope we can disable all this crap.
  • by BonoboIO on 6/10/24, 8:32 PM

    Only on iPhone 15 Pro upwards or M1 Mac’s

    So only a very small percentage of users will be able to use it.

  • by myko on 6/11/24, 2:48 PM

    This AI craze is very underwhelming. Surprised to see Apple go whole-hog into it.
  • by camcaine on 6/10/24, 9:54 PM

    Feels like Apple are super late to the party and are scrambling. And it showed.
  • by semireg on 6/11/24, 4:44 AM

    So that’s where all the M4s are going … to Apple’s private inference cloud.
  • by KennyBlanken on 6/10/24, 7:38 PM

    Okay. And what about the terrible keyboard, predictive text, and autocorrect?
  • by notatoad on 6/10/24, 8:39 PM

    is my iPhone 14 going to get none of this then?

    i understand i'm not going to get the on-device stuff, but something like siri being able to call out to chatGPT should be available on any device, right?

  • by agumonkey on 6/10/24, 7:08 PM

    It's not personal computing, it's personal intelligence now :)
  • by lawlessone on 6/10/24, 9:15 PM

    Couldn't Siri already do some of these things without LLM's?
  • by breadwinner on 6/10/24, 6:46 PM

    I thought it was underwhelming. The fact that integration with ChatGPT is not seamless pours cold water over it. Siri will seek your permission each time before passing the question to ChatGPT. I can avoid that step by using ChatGPT directly.
  • by jdeaton on 6/11/24, 6:17 AM

    Maybe we could just get a decent spam filter on imessage?
  • by daralthus on 6/10/24, 10:02 PM

    /Time for a good prompt injection email header/s
  • by gonzo41 on 6/11/24, 12:25 AM

    Oddly, I find myself siding with Musk on this feature.
  • by 65 on 6/10/24, 7:38 PM

    Some stuff seems cool in the sense that you try it once and never use it again. Other stuff, like ChatGPT integration, seem like they'll produce more AI Slop and false information. It's always interesting to me to see just how many people blatantly trust ChatGPT for information.

    I find most AI products to be counter-intuitive - most of the time Googling something or writing your own document is faster. But the tech overlords of Silicon Valley will continuously force AI down our throats. It's no longer about useful software, we made most of that already, it's about growth at all costs. I'm a developer and day by day I come to despise the software world. Real life is a lot better. Real life engineering and hardware have gotten a lot better over the years. That's the only thing keeping me optimistic about technology these days. Software is what makes me pessimistic.

  • by Tiktaalik on 6/10/24, 7:23 PM

    I think the genmoji is going to be tons of fun. Basically seems like https://emojikitchen.dev/ on steroids.
  • by newsclues on 6/10/24, 7:01 PM

    Let me run it locally on a Mac mini or whatever
  • by ge96 on 6/11/24, 12:01 AM

    Heh I see what they did there convenient name
  • by nothrowaways on 6/11/24, 1:27 AM

    I hope it is optional feature.
  • by pcloadletter_ on 6/10/24, 7:07 PM

    My MSFT stock is looking good.
  • by rldjbpin on 6/11/24, 5:52 PM

    i hope there is a way to prevent the online processing without consent.
  • by toisanji on 6/10/24, 10:56 PM

    can you disable external llm calls so everything stays on device?
  • by iJohnDoe on 6/10/24, 10:24 PM

    Apple Intelligence = AI

    Figgin’ brilliant.

  • by hu3 on 6/10/24, 6:54 PM

    Am I understanding correctly that some AI will run on Apple servers? So not completely offline AI.

    If so that's somewhat disappointing given how much AI power Apple hardware packs.

    > Apple sets a new standard for privacy in AI, with the ability to flex and scale computational capacity between on-device processing and larger, server-based models that run on dedicated Apple silicon servers

  • by sidcool on 6/11/24, 4:01 AM

    No privacy concerns?
  • by rasengan on 6/10/24, 6:47 PM

    Much thanks goes out to Microsoft and Apple for handing the Desktop to Linux!
  • by fsto on 6/10/24, 7:00 PM

    Can someone explain why the AAPL share drops 1% during the event. Did the market expect more? If so, what?
  • by chucke1992 on 6/10/24, 8:29 PM

    Nothing really impressive. Let's see who the stock reacts.
  • by vladsolokha on 6/11/24, 12:43 AM

    So now my “Sent from iPhone” email signature will be replaced with “Sent with Apple Intelligence” smh. I don’t think we will have anything original to say anymore. It will all just be converted to what is proper and “right”
  • by tunnuz on 6/11/24, 9:33 AM

    AI for short?
  • by rvz on 6/10/24, 6:30 PM

    Lots of apps have been sherlocked once again and this marks the accelerated race to zero with Apple's entrance with on-device AI all system-wide.

    No API keys, no prompt engineering or switching between AI models.

    It. just. works.

  • by simianparrot on 6/11/24, 6:01 AM

    It needs to be opt-out by default in the EU or this is an enormous and inevitable GDPR breach waiting to happen.
  • by cuuupid on 6/10/24, 6:41 PM

    I really hope we can fully turn off the GPT4o integration even more than just saying no to every escalation
  • by chuch1 on 6/13/24, 2:09 PM

    sounds cool.
  • by egypturnash on 6/10/24, 7:04 PM

    Uugggghhhh
  • by whimsicalism on 6/10/24, 6:49 PM

    It's interesting how positive the commentary is here. I am generally much more pro-AI than the average HN commentator, but frankly I find this release completely underwhelming.

    Just replace Siri with chatgpt and give it actions, that is what everyone wants - why can't we have that?

  • by rqtwteye on 6/10/24, 6:56 PM

    It’s a little disappointing that even big companies like Apple jump on OpenAI instead of building their own thing. Diversity seems pretty important with AI.
  • by jadbox on 6/10/24, 6:32 PM

    .. and none of it is open. It's a closed source OS with a proprietary dev cloud service using proprietary model that's only accessible with proprietary sdks.
  • by amrrs on 6/10/24, 6:55 PM

    Slap on the face all Cloud based LLM providers!
  • by tsunamifury on 6/10/24, 7:22 PM

    This isn't about giving Apple intelligence, this is about giving ChatGPT an understanding of the world via the eyes, ears, and thoughts on your phone.
  • by 1-6 on 6/10/24, 6:34 PM

    Apple (I reckon): Most people don’t know how to use AI well. It’s our responsibility to pare it all down and release features one by one selling each new software feature as part of next year’s hardware.
  • by tonyabracadabra on 6/10/24, 8:47 PM

    Ok! Made a song about! https://heymusic.ai/music/apple-intel-fEoSb Hope you guys enjoy it!
  • by seydor on 6/10/24, 6:40 PM

    "we also intend to add support for other models"

    When they pay us sufficiently

    It's great that Apple is capitalizing so well on everyone else's inventions, but couldn't they at least pretend they will give something back to the ecosystem?

    I wish someone somewhere creates something like intents for the web browser

  • by tekawade on 6/10/24, 9:24 PM

    "privacy in AI" - If apple is sharing with ChatGPT how does it work? Do they try to remove context information. But still it's sharing a lot more. + Anything that goes out can go anywhere in internet. Look at Facebook, Twitter and even Apple use of data.