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Windows 10 share increases while Windows 11 share decreases

by ethanholt1 on 5/3/24, 8:11 AM with 44 comments

• by beefnugs on 5/4/24, 4:29 PM

  Dont forget they already said windows 11 will have complete keylogger and screen OCR for "ai search"

  Because SOMEONE thought complete privacy rape is worth "when did i tell my friend about that dune movie?"

  completely against everyone's will: absolute tracking

  So now the hackers dont even have to do any real work in identifying juicy targets... just hack something, and now built in automated queries to the "ai search" will find everything good without the slightest targeted effort any more

• by FerretFred on 5/3/24, 8:52 AM

  > the OS's "radically modernized, more consistent design...belies what is really more of an evolutionary update."

  Means .. "we're pushing even more unwanted crap onto your screen in so many different ways you'll wonder how you're going to ever get any work done!"

  I've never really been a Windows fan, and having recently wrestled with a Windows 10 installation for a local charity I can confirm that state will not be changing. Using a Windows 10 for actual work is bad enough, so I can only imagine what '11 will be like.

• by zsazsak on 5/3/24, 6:15 PM

  Due to Windows 11 uploading all of my documents to their cloud without informed consent , for a second time, I'm heading to Linux.

• by pathartl on 5/5/24, 4:51 AM

  I like Windows 11. Windows 10 feels old in comparison, especially with many system settings living in Control Panel. I use a dev drive, I like my dark mode notepad and taskman, I love having a modern Terminal and winget, and frnakly I pay for Microsoft 365 because it's a pretty good value for the 5 other family members I've got on it.

  RE: any arguments about ads and such... I don't see what's an ad? I disable copilot in my taskbar. It takes all of 10 seconds to remove the LinkedIn and other crappy shortcut (just shortcut, not full software mind you) from my start menu the one time a year (at best) I reinstall Windows. Yeah, there's OneDrive, but you can uninstall it unlike something similar on another platform like iCloud. And you know what? I can run applications from 25 years ago with practically no issue.

• by tiptup300 on 5/3/24, 1:52 PM

  I just started using an old laptop I was going to sell for my kids to be able to just slam on the keys and get interested. It's got windows 10 and man I forgot how nice it was just to turn on the pc and get moving.

  Not all this garbage. Windows 11 is such trash everywhere.

  I was worried when I found that I didn't have winget, but just installing windows terminal installed it with it. That's pretty much all I need.

• by pcdoodle on 5/3/24, 1:37 PM

  I am running Windows 11 Arm in MacOS Parallels as it's the only option (Microsoft Pulled the 10 Arm Builds).

  I decided to not even let this Windows 11 VM connect to the internet (But has access to my MacOS partition to for file access).

  It's a shame because windows got so many things right but it's starting to taste bad. We used to write software to have windows control some pretty cool stuff like automation, security and POS but there's no longer a "Pro" version without the dumpster truck.

• by leotravis10 on 5/3/24, 4:50 PM

  dupe

  Previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40226934

• by johann8384 on 5/5/24, 2:37 AM

  Windows XP is still their best version.

• by MaximilianEmel on 5/4/24, 3:03 AM

  What I find most interesting about the data, is that this trend actually seems to be more pronounced in richer countries. My initial hypothesis was that it was people in poorer countries coming online with older, cheaper hardware, unable to meet win11's requirements.

  Keep in mind this wasn't a real scientific analysis or anything.

• by bn-l on 5/4/24, 6:01 AM

  Are they allowed to train on the documents they ~~steal~~ upload to their cloud? I mean is there some fine print where I agreed to by using the OS? Because there is a lot of personal stuff there.

• by nothercastle on 5/3/24, 1:34 PM

  My plan is to wait till win 12. If it’s a disaster then downgrade to 11

• by bigbaguette on 5/4/24, 7:53 AM

  It could also be hordes of legacy win7 systems that are getting upgraded to win10 for insurance reasons

• by goosedragons on 5/3/24, 1:57 PM

  I would've used Windows 10 on my Surface Pro X if it supported x64 emulation. Windows 11's UI is just awful on a tablet. The only real improvement is that they've migrated a few new settings to the new more touchable settings.

• by simonblack on 5/3/24, 9:51 PM

  Windows 10, eh?

  I refuse to use anything past Windows 7. (When I have to use Windows, that is.)

• by acheong08 on 5/3/24, 3:12 PM

  Year of the Linux Desktop hopefully coming soon

• by more_corn on 5/3/24, 9:26 PM

  Almost as if shoving ads in everyone’s faces backfired and they all want out.

• by lencastre on 5/4/24, 6:20 AM

  Puhlease… just use shutup10 and some debloating script easily found on GitHub. It’s mostly harmless. And it could be a fun weekend project to install a Rufus tampered Win11 ISO. And when WU reenables some sort of privacy and/or advertising wrecking feature you run shutup10 again which will tell you which changes MS decided to make on your behalf so you can toggle them back again. Finally, if you can spare some computer cycles, run a docker-pihole and block those sweet sweet ms-events IPs for fun and profit.