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October 2025 will be a support massacre for a bunch of Microsoft products

by praseodym on 4/23/24, 11:42 AM with 90 comments

  • by alyandon on 4/24/24, 2:19 PM

    I still wonder if Microsoft is going to blink with the whole Windows 11 requires TPM + modern(ish) CPU requirements vs the EOL of Windows 10.

    I have a lot of hardware that will not run Windows 11 without hacking the installer to bypass the TPM/CPU checks and even then the end result is something that would be unsupported by Microsoft. If I move these machines to Windows 11 I'll be at risk of a future update hosing the install because it relies on newer CPU instructions or non-existent TPM.

    I'm not going to retire those systems - I'll just migrate them to Linux instead.

  • by neilv on 4/24/24, 3:11 PM

    I sold your city a bridge that has an engineering flaw, such that it collapses when a purple van followed by an orange scooter drives over it.

    It also has thousands of other serious engineering flaws, for other combinations of vehicle and foot traffic.

    I keep the bridge blueprints secret, so that only I can make patches for the engineering flaws.

    But I'll slowly trickle patches to some of the thousands of engineering flaws. (Mainly when they result in collapses to bridges I've built in other cities.)

    Each time, I'll act like I'm doing you a favor, patching some of the bridge engineering flaws that I made negligently.

    And I'll start bundling concessions and invasiveness with these patches.

    The patch for the design flaw that makes the bridge collapse when green polka-dot truck drives over it-- comes with a garish billboard that I control.

    The patch for the design flaw that makes the bridge collapse when a convertible with the windshield wipers on drives over it-- gratuitously requires that everyone driving over it lets me copy all their documents and photos.

    It doesn't help that your city has some really jerky enemies, who like to make bridges collapse, and have lots of time on their hands. (Maybe you should've thought of that when selecting an engineering firm for your bridge.)

    Somehow, I don't get jailed for shoddy bridge engineering, nor lose my bridge engineering license, nor even have to pay compensation for any of the collapses of bridges that I sold to other cities.

  • by rkagerer on 4/24/24, 2:49 PM

    Workaround is to use products which are already out of support. Eg. I'm still rocking Word and Excel 2003, and prefer them in most cases over the subsequent Ribbony-versions (despite having both installed).

    As a nice bonus I'm immune from random updates that overhaul the UX, break features or move my cheese. There are effective ways to mitigate the security concerns.

  • by dist-epoch on 4/23/24, 10:05 PM

    Windows 10 has 67% market share, Windows 11 has 27%.

    There is absolutely no chance Windows 10 gets killed next year.

    Don't forget Microsoft backed down from removing Paint from Windows after some minor backlash.

  • by Arcuru on 4/24/24, 1:36 PM

    Has anyone figured out how many devices are still running Windows that can't upgrade to 11?

    The oldest Intel CPUs supported were released in 2017.

  • by greatgib on 4/24/24, 1:34 PM

       "In March 2021, we confronted a serious reality: state sponsored threat actors were targeting on-premises Exchange servers."
    That totally joke excuse to just say that they think that they can milk their users more with a saas business instead of selling permanent licenses.

    Also I find it very funny that Microsoft use the security of on-premise as an excuse when you see how insecure was their own IT with most of the public exchange was probably vulnerable to leak multiple times and for a long time...

  • by iamleppert on 4/24/24, 2:27 PM

    Businesses can turn to new AI powered features and applications, such as Microsoft Bing and ChatGPT to replace these legacy systems. AI powered Bing and Microsoft 365 provide engaging and immersive experiences, powered by generative AI and ChatGPT. These tools allow businesses to move at the speed of 365, and get more done, more securely and more efficiently than ever before with the help of AI.

  • by nerdjon on 4/24/24, 5:57 PM

    I don't have any thoughts on any of the other stuff, but I am sticking with Windows 10 until the Windows 11 LTSC version comes out later this year. Especially with a lot of the crap that Microsoft keeps adding too Windows 11 recently.

    I refuse to run a non stripped down version of Windows. Windows 10 LTSC has been amazing for gaming, particularly on my Steam Deck.

    That being said, almost a year and a half away doesn't really seem like a time to start panicking unless I am missing something?

  • by post_break on 4/23/24, 10:58 PM

  • by nix0n on 4/24/24, 2:40 PM

    What sort of third-party antivirus/firewall are people using these days?

    Windows 10 is really the only viable option for my gaming PC (everything else is on Linux). So I'll run it as safely as I can.

  • by johnwheeler on 4/24/24, 2:14 PM

    Massacre huh…

  • by saulpw on 4/23/24, 9:52 PM

    It is interesting that Google gets a lot of flak for canceling products, while Microsoft effectively cancels products all the time through EOL, but it doesn't register the same because they will sell you the next version (which is NOT the same as the old version only better).

    Would love to still run Windows XP.