by OldGuyInTheClub on 2/21/24, 8:25 PM
Ablative management: Layered heat shield of dispensable people that burn off to protect the capsule with the execs.
by tr_user on 2/21/24, 7:38 PM
Steps in the right direction, let's get rid of more engineers and replace them with more MBAs.
> However, a person familiar with the decision and who asked not to be identified commenting on sensitive personnel decisions, confirmed that Clark’s leaving was not voluntary.
> Clark is an engineer. His successor Ringgold has business degrees. However she began her aviation career performing avionics systems maintenance and troubleshooting on C-130 aircraft in the United States Air Force.
by mikece on 2/21/24, 7:11 PM
A friend of mine who used to work for Boeing said the downward trend started when they acquired McDonnell Douglas and the MD bean counters took over a lot of top positions at Boeing, displacing engineers. After that cost-cutting became more of an obsession than building awesome aircraft. Makes me wonder how Boeing can avoid descending into bankruptcy at this point with multiple major projects having significant issues, recalls, and safety issues.
by nottorp on 2/21/24, 9:08 PM
> Mike Fleming, who led the 737 MAX return-to-service push after the two fatal crashes and has since then led the drive to certify the MAX 7 and MAX 10, has been promoted to replace Lund as senior vice president and general manager of all Boeing Commercial airplane programs
Ooo pretty. The person responsible for the self certification failures is getting promoted.
by kazinator on 2/21/24, 7:52 PM
If you throw someone down an inflatable slide, does their golden parachute open?
by ranger207 on 2/21/24, 11:29 PM
> Ringgold joined Boeing in 2011 at the company’s North Charleston, S.C., production facility, where she rose to become a senior quality manager.
Wasn't the South Carolina site the one that had all the 787 QC issues?
by olliej on 2/21/24, 8:38 PM
Huh, does this mean they're going to oust all the executives that resulted in the environment that produced the 737max saga?
by uuddlrlrbaba on 2/21/24, 8:22 PM
Has there been any word/news on addressing the self-certifying portion of these issues?
From what I gather, in addition to management prioritizing the wrong things, there has also been the issue of not enough external oversight to hold them accountable for safety.
by skynetv2 on 2/21/24, 7:08 PM
I am surprised it takes this long to make someone accountable. But it is too little too late, though a step in the right direction. It is clear that this program was flawed right from the get go.
by lamontcg on 2/21/24, 11:56 PM
They need to take Spirit AeroSystems back in-house again.
Shuffling the deck chairs around in the executive lounge at Boeing isn't going to fundamentally change anything.
by fargle on 2/22/24, 4:14 AM
and when they fire the rest of them and move the headquarters back to Renton (or wherever the engineers live), not VA. and pick some brilliant management with both engineering and business experience, that have strong incentives to make boeing a success long-term. and when pigs learn to fly. and somewhat after that, with a lot of work and good luck, it might get a little better.
by boringuser2 on 2/21/24, 11:39 PM
This is absolutely reprehensible.
Leaders should take responsibility for failure, not shuffle it around.
If Boeing were a Japanese company, the CEO would personally be apologizing.
by ironmagma on 2/21/24, 8:26 PM
Totally moronic to let someone go with 18 years of experience. Just move them.
by sharts on 2/22/24, 4:32 AM
But who are the real culprits? Why are their heads not rolling also?
by entropicgravity on 2/21/24, 7:43 PM
Ah the dominoes start to fall yet again. I wonder how many between this and the CEO this time?
by AlbertCory on 2/21/24, 9:03 PM
anyone know if this guy came in with McDonnell-Douglas?