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Same. Leaving Apple Hardware

by sfryxell on 2/16/24, 11:32 PM with 37 comments

by jauntywundrkind on 2/17/24, 12:04 AM
> The only way I can enforce my beliefs on the nytimes (and Washington post, WSJ, youtube, and amazon prime) is to use the web.
Values-based positions are all too rare.
The continued hope is that they create some momentum somewhere else. The web ought be more than a parallel, it ought be provibg itself better. Proof will be in the pudding.
Extensions definitely are a "can't get that any other way" example. And I struggle to imagine not being equipped with form auto-saver features, history enhancers, customizable dark mode, and other benefits. But it still feels like just a start.
> The web protects me and because it's text out in the open I can live my personal morality directly. I don't have to ask permission — I can enforce.
Multi-planar combat against that which dogs us; Infernal Machines of closed natures which leave is stranded, high and dry, where we don't have control. We see these threads again and again. Local-capable iot. Apps & services closing down on us.
Recent examples,
Home Assistant: Three years later https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39345122 https://eamonnsullivan.co.uk/posts-output/home-automation-th...
No one cares about open-source, until https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39396130 https://blog.cryptpad.org/2024/02/15/no-one-cares-intil/
by etaioinshrdlu on 2/16/24, 11:48 PM
Apple is a consumer product business. They have no reason to care about being a good Unix - that's misunderstanding. And iOS has covered up, and made inaccessible, literally every feature of Unix.
by nunez on 2/17/24, 6:46 AM
> I don't use the NYtimes app; though I pay for a subscription. I do not accept advertising into my life. I think its wrong to let wealthy people have a shot at manipulating me. I trust the nytimes journalistic standards but not their advertising.
Manipulation is just the act of purposefully invoking an emotion. I think it's important to realize that manipulation is everywhere, all of the time.
The author remarked that he made a social media app for his kid to "understand." Getting his kid to use the app? That's manipulation!
The kid telling him "no" when he actually means "yes" or "not sure, but what happens if I say no"? That's also manipulation!
Traveling to the grocery store and looking at literally any product on a shelf? Manipulation masterclass.[0]
Reading _literally any_ article on the New York Times? This literal comment? You already know.
Thus, I think that rejecting advertising on the grounds of manipulation by "wealthy people" is misguided [1]. I personally go out of my way to block ads and trackers because I think they are extremely creepy, can suck bandwidth and slow page load times (if implemented poorly; many are) and can be vectors for malware.
[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2741065/
[1] You don't have to be rich to run an ad campaign. In fact, many companies that are on their last legs are some of the ones that spend the most!
by bediger4000 on 2/17/24, 4:32 AM
Total solidarity with this guy, for exactly his reasons. Advertising is all lies.
by 7e on 2/17/24, 6:39 AM
If the author wants to use the web but doesn't want advertising, they can install an ad-blocking plugin for mobile Safari. This rant is irrational.
by sfryxell on 2/16/24, 11:32 PM
A fuller explanation why an emotional reaction is often still the apropriate action.
by BugsJustFindMe on 2/16/24, 11:59 PM
It feels super awkward to talk about how web is the savior of us all while sending my CPU to the moon to display some text and a screen-filling animated SVG that drops 10 frames for every one that gets displayed.
by HL33tibCe7 on 2/16/24, 11:47 PM
> I'll need to compile and submit, to live in their ecosystem; where apps are free to manipulate me. advertise at me.
Apps are more free to manipulate and advertise to you on the web than they are as native apps.
by TedDoesntTalk on 2/16/24, 11:50 PM
Lost me at the wealthy trying to control the poor.