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Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

by elkos on 12/18/23, 11:41 AM with 126 comments

  • by notimetorelax on 12/18/23, 12:09 PM

    I’m curious if X will manage to build up the moderation tools and automation without rehiring as many moderators as they used to have. Looking at the requirements, some of those challenging - preventing fast dissemination of illegal content.
  • by demondemidi on 12/18/23, 1:07 PM

    Disappointing that the vast majority of top levels here are describing the EU as some sort of totalitarian police state. It does respect rights. Do the people in the USA think that every country should let its citizens act like uneducated armed griefers?
  • by threeseed on 12/18/23, 12:12 PM

    Interesting that it is timed with the recent launch of Threads in EU. Will definitely establish a compliance benchmark for X.

    But the big problem for X is that Musk burned so many bridges with fired employees that the list of whistleblowers for any issues will be endless.

  • by orwin on 12/18/23, 12:19 PM

    Not flagging because it is more interesting than usual for a link about Twitter:

    it's the first time the law is used, and it also _strongly_ hint that they tried first to get access to the informations without legal proceedings.

    The legalese is strong, but I think most of it is understandable (which is surprising).

    But: Twitter is now like the 12th social network, who cares?

  • by westcort on 12/18/23, 2:20 PM

    Just make a new rule that you can only post content on x that has first been posted on a properly moderated social media site.
  • by pavlov on 12/18/23, 12:07 PM

    Musk keeps repeating that X always follows local laws and regulations, but in practice it seems to only apply to countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Curious.
  • by pjc50 on 12/18/23, 12:34 PM

    Interesting that Community Notes is mentioned, because it's by far the most reliable anti-"disinformation" mechanism I've seen.

    The "bluecheck" system has been absolutely wrecked, though. Even with the haphazard patching of grey and gold ticks, a bluecheck more often than not is the sign of self-promoted nonsense.

  • by throwaw12 on 12/18/23, 3:56 PM

    "news" means something "new is happening", how do you know if it is a disinformation or right when it just came up?

    Should we blindly trust and consume news from mass media propaganda machines like CNN, Fox news, BBC and etc?

  • by speak_plainly on 12/18/23, 1:01 PM

    Liberalism was meant to end this kind of EU censorship. Parliaments were supposed to be the place where diverse and illiberal speech was dissolved into a new liberal language, not through brain dead regulation and technocratism.

    If Meta properties are the example of what to expect from the future locked-down internet, prepare for the internet and much more to wither on the vine and die a slow and sad death.

  • by throwaw12 on 12/18/23, 3:46 PM

    "among others, concerned the dissemination of illegal content in the context of Hamas' terrorist attacks against Israel, the Commission has decided to open formal infringement proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act."

    Why not open a case against Israel and some of the citizens for spreading a misinformation about beheaded babies and some other lies?

  • by 6footgeek on 12/18/23, 12:45 PM

    So what's the betting that X will be unavailable in Europe by end of day?
  • by Exendroinient23 on 12/18/23, 1:21 PM

    EU just wants to regulate everything. Recent ai regulations are very bad. Purposefully nerfing yourself at the technology front isn't a solution.
  • by jongjong on 12/18/23, 12:32 PM

    The EU government doesn't give a crap about unfair social media algorithms when they benefit their authoritarian agendas (at the expense of citizens) but as soon as soon as the algorithms go against their own agenda, they immediately launch a commission! And, ironically, the algorithms today are less constrained than they've ever been.
  • by pseudo0 on 12/18/23, 1:03 PM

    Just pull out of the EU. It's overtly hostile to freedom of speech. Run Twitter from the US, and let the EU erect their own "Great Firewall" if they want to block it. F500s (or at least the ones still advertising) can pay for ads through their US subsidiaries, and the handful of remaining Twitter employees in Europe can either take a relocation package or severance.