by thinkcomp on 11/22/23, 11:10 PM with 48 comments
by tjbiddle on 11/23/23, 2:48 AM
Okay, I understand that you have a right to request those documents - but it's the day before Thanksgiving, and the right people aren't available. Yes, I get it - the law says "Immediately" if at the headquarters, but give some slack - it's a holiday. Come back on Monday.
The guy got shoved because he was repeatedly told not to be on the private property, and instead he decided to walk in - and then start claiming he's on the sidewalk (Which she, now they were). He was told he was trespassing, he refused, and they have a right to use reasonable force to remove him. Considering they did that directly in front of a police officer, I think highlights the OpenAI guy is fine.
This reeks of like "I'm right in one thing - so I'm right in everything". People are human man, again - come back Monday. Go enjoy time with your family and stop trying to pick a fight right now.
by shrubble on 11/23/23, 2:30 AM
by silenced_trope on 11/23/23, 4:08 AM
With that said it still doesn't mean that if don't do that that you get to shove your way in (or try to) and start yelling at people lol.
I'm sure the actual process is that if they are required to do so and do not then you a member of the public ("data journalist" or otherwise) can pursue legal action. The "I'm entering the property NOW!" thing is likely not codified into whatever law this guy is quoting. "If they don't turn it over you're allowed to invade the corporate HQ!" Doubtful.
by zoklet-enjoyer on 11/23/23, 4:08 AM
Update: ok, I skimmed the article and there's a lot more to it than what's in the videos. This is a non-story by someone with a vendetta. That money transmitter law is bullshit. Enforcement of it is bullshit. Sucks that you tried to do the "right" thing and follow the law, but it's probably best to just move on from that. What do you hope to accomplish by continuing to pursue this?
by samspenc on 11/23/23, 2:52 AM
OpenAI's Form-990s from previous years are all available at https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
Including their entire 2021 filing https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
Along with the nice visualizations the site provides.
by notatoad on 11/23/23, 3:34 AM
every random annoying dude with a substack is a journalist. you're not special. and yeah, maybe once upon a time there was a legitimate reason for concern when people tried to suppress journalism. but now everybody is a journalist, and so there's no special privileges for journalism. if you turn up at a business and start harassing employees, expect to get shoved out the door, regardless of whether or not you have applied the "journalist" label to yourself.
by mvdtnz on 11/23/23, 3:31 AM
by baking on 11/23/23, 4:24 AM
by doubloon on 11/23/23, 4:12 AM
by WalterBright on 11/23/23, 3:53 AM
by ratg13 on 11/23/23, 3:30 AM
There are reasons nobody does this.
by fragsworth on 11/23/23, 2:24 AM
> They are smart people. About that I have no doubt. But I’ve seen how they treat rules. I know what they think of ethics.
Also:
> I have never met Sam, and I have only met Greg a couple of times.
I'm just saying, breaking rules in business is not necessarily the same as being unethical. Especially financial/regulatory capture rules like it seems the author is complaining about.
Different things are at stake with AI, and I think we're all aligned.
by pjot on 11/23/23, 4:02 AM
What’s the end game here? Cops aren’t interpreters of the law, they don’t care about your statutes. And frankly, they could be out actually doing something instead of talking down knucklehead “journalists”