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Is it possible to save Wikipedia?

by kurtreed on 11/10/23, 7:31 PM with 8 comments

  • by throwawaysleep on 11/10/23, 7:44 PM

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

    The article for all to see.

    > that Israel occupies Gaza since 1967

    No, it says that it has been under Israeli military control since 1967. Disengagement is right there in paragraph 3. But its borders remain blockaded.

    > that Hamas are not a terrorist organisation

    This is in line with journalistic standards on the use of the word "terrorist."

    > New guidance on terrorism that says to describe specific actions that are being perpetrated, and attribute the use of the word terrorism or terrorist to authorities except when talking about historical events widely acknowledged as terrorist actions.

    https://www.ap.org/press-releases/new-ap-stylebook-includes-...

    https://www.facebook.com/apstylebook/posts/3824207864268938/...

    > that Israel blocks Gazan land, sea, and air space for no reason at all

    No, it just says that they do and have since 2005. I could see adding a line contending that Israel does it for security reasons, but there is nothing about it being for no reason.

    And before anyone accuses me of being an anti-Semite, see how many comments on my profile have been flagged to death for supporting Israel's ground and air campaign.

    > "You can’t cite the Daily Mail at all," he claims. "You can’t cite Fox News on sociopolitical issues either."

    For one thing, these organizations don't even claim to be telling the truth once they are in court and spend millions settling lawsuits for libel.

  • by blacksqr on 11/10/23, 7:44 PM

    > Wikipedia is providing left-leaning information on a variety of important topics.

    Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

  • by lawlessone on 11/10/23, 7:35 PM

    Wikipedia is fine.

    "The Wikipedia page for the COVID-19 lab leak theory, for instance, calls it a "conspiracy theory" that is "informed by racist undercurrents" and "fed by pseudoscientific … thinking."

    It is though.

  • by beardyw on 11/11/23, 1:49 PM

    I think also the problem is that what is considered left and right in one country (or even state) is different to another. Typically US Americans are not good at seeing themselves as a small part of a larger world. These kinds of simplistic parochial articles do nothing to help.
  • by anigbrowl on 11/10/23, 7:38 PM

    There's always Conservapaedia for the more discerning intellects among us.
  • by samketchup on 11/10/23, 8:32 PM

    basedwiki.com

    Some brave souls are working on the problem