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Ask HN: Taking virtual meetings at the coffee shop

by cm11 on 10/6/23, 8:22 PM with 3 comments

As a community heavy on remote working, I'm curious what if anything you think can be done about our taking calls at coffee shops. I don't think it's too important whether it's video or phone, but there's ofc more video than ever. What is important is that it seems more people are going to the cafe _to_ take the call—arriving and setting up just before, hopping immediately on, and staying for awhile on one or multiple calls. And then doing it each morning/week on schedule. I'll distinguish this from some other "use cases" like getting an unexpected call or for taking a call on a walk and popping in.

The unavoidable negative bent goes something like, when you're on a call in a shared space you're polluting everyone else's experience. There is a lot of interesting discussion that could be had about headphones too. They solve (?) broadcasting your audio to everyone, but they are mostly one directional, insulating us from our own noise, and it's a weird expectation that others should have them to deal with our noise. I'm overall worried about how normalized it is for us to "take" from this space. Of course, there are situations where it can be quite good for society to provide spaces for this activity.

It's worth repeating the space is shared (and really it's owned by the cafe) so neither I nor any particular patron gets to decide good/evil. But it also doesn't feel quite right to expect or force baristas to have to police.

  • by syndicatedjelly on 10/6/23, 10:28 PM

    Read up on Tragedy of the Commons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons).

    Imagine what happens if everyone treats the cafe like you're describing. Will it make the cafe a pleasant place for others to be?

    Try to live in a way such that if everyone else lived that way, things will be alright. Sit outside, or in a coworking space where talking on a call is acceptable.

  • by houseatrielah on 10/6/23, 9:02 PM

    We don't have the social dynamics for social shaming to work. I've seen some cafes where there's no seating just tall tables for standing at -- the owner could theoretically implement those. But otherwise, I don't see anything working.