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Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

by kbk on 9/11/23, 8:36 AM with 192 comments

  • by throwaway914 on 9/11/23, 9:32 AM

    I know I'm naive: I don't understand why US companies are so sensitive to respecting Israel. I don't know why our gov is so sensitive to this either. Israel - like all countries - deserves criticism, no? This can't purely be about respecting the billions spent on US weapons to defend Israel, right? I genuinely do not understand, because I think they'd happily buy from the military anyway.
  • by redox99 on 9/11/23, 10:06 AM

    Moderation really varies a lot depending both on the language and the group being criticized.

    For example on twitch, Spanish streamers[1] say a lot of things that would get an English streamer canceled and/or banned for saying it. And for other languages I'm sure the gap is even bigger.

    The same with the group being criticized. Criticism against Russians is not moderated the same way as criticism against Jewish people.

    To be clear I'm not in favor of hate speech, I'm just pointing out that moderation isn't 100% equal.

    [1] I mean the language of the stream, not the nationality of the streamer

  • by tamimio on 9/11/23, 11:27 AM

    So the journalist makes a documentary about how Facebook censors people, and a day later he gets censored, I think that just makes his documentary stronger!

    Also, when the internet will ever learn, if you try to censor something you will just give it more exposure, I personally would never know about this documentary but now I will watch it.

  • by Z7YCx5ieof4Std on 9/11/23, 9:16 AM

    And now the Streisand effect will come into play. Where can I find this documentary with English subtitles
  • by actuator on 9/11/23, 9:30 AM

    Not that it justifies the deletion, I wonder how a state sponsored propaganda outlet came to be regarded well among global audiences. It would be interesting to read up on what they have done to garner that image.
  • by andrewinardeer on 9/11/23, 12:48 PM

    I'm leaning towards the scenario where an organized group mass reported his profile after the show aired and Meta's Lord Algorithm nuked the page.

    I'm also willing to bet that when it gets manually reviewed it will be reinstated.

  • by stareatgoats on 9/11/23, 1:34 PM

    This makes me think that the reason I was thrown out of Facebook is because I followed some Palestinian pages there. Not because I necessarily a supporter of the whole "Palestinian cause", because I think the whole thing is honestly a mess perpetrated by forces with ulterior motives on both sides. But I like to keep informed.

    I never got an explanation from fb at the time, but now when I try to log in it states a reason: I have broken community rules regarding "dangerous people and organizations". Which is really a laughable accusation regarding me, a convinced pacifist since 50 years back. But I'm honestly concerned that this might have further implications for me. Who else gets to know that I'm considered associated with "dangerous persons or organizations"?

    Anyway, we are as a society still grappling for how to deal with the sudden and immense power over public opinion generation as well peoples most private lives that social media companies have acquired lately. I don't have a complete solution, but this is untenable.

  • by boomboomsubban on 9/11/23, 9:41 AM

    I'm not defending the deletion, but couldn't the acts on the show have violated TOS in a variety of ways? Creating fake pages and conducting any kind of experiment secretly probably violate the terms in some kind of way.

    Still wrong to target the host, but I could see how they could justify it.

  • by Simulacra on 9/11/23, 10:15 AM

    I used to be a supporter of Israel, but our support of Israel causes way too many problems, both foreign and domestic, and I think it's time for America to separate from Israel permanently.
  • by daliz on 9/11/23, 9:52 AM

    Classic Meta.
  • by aerodog on 9/11/23, 9:12 AM

    X's spat with the ADL revealed how substantial their lobby power is. That ad revenue plunged 60% due to their prejudices (against Elon and his management) testifies to a strong hold they have on media of all types. I don't trust Meta to reverse their behaviors like this, which they have likely done many, many times.