by itsmekali321 on 8/31/23, 4:40 PM with 13 comments
by version_five on 8/31/23, 4:52 PM
by PaulHoule on 8/31/23, 4:49 PM
I don't believe it is the next big thing that will change the world though.
I've revisited the "Web3" concept lately because I've gotten involved in the Fediverse and it seems to me that it is missing a universal system for authentication. To add new services to the Fedi it seems fundamental there should be single sign-on so I can log in and prove I am a certain person on mastodon.social.
The traditional way to do this put the server in charge and I guess I would trust mastodon.social as much as I would trust Facebook or Google but there will always be people running small servers who are dishonest who might reset my password and steal my account.
So the "Web3" concept where I have cryptographic keys and some immutable database that verifies those keys is appealing to me, but (1) it is so tied up with scams and I think the whole idea of "ownership" bothers people, it seems something like a timeshare scam or Amway or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure
and (2) boy people hate managing their own cryptographic keys, I mean Che Guevara was one of the most disciplined revolutionaries in the world but he reused his one time pads so they tracked him down and put a bullet in him. I look at how people have really struggled with gpg, whenever I have published some open source project to maven or something I've always made up a new set of keys because I lost the keys I made three years ago when I published another project.
Something like "Web3" that is low resource consumption, cheap to run, still secure and doesn't have all the bullshit, grifters, ugly apes, and all that might appeal to me but people will still hate managing keys
by corinroyal on 8/31/23, 5:37 PM
by thesuperbigfrog on 8/31/23, 5:49 PM
by WallyFunk on 8/31/23, 5:05 PM
by retrocryptid on 8/31/23, 6:48 PM
I think to understand the human / sociological aspects, you should grok the underlying tech, even if you don't plan to use it. Maybe not at a detailed implementation level. Like understanding how people use ETH to spin up their own coins is a good level of abstraction to understand. (i.e.-why are ETH and BTC different.)
And I would love for all the eCos / Mark Miller / Nick Szabo e-contracts stuff to be useful someday.
by dtbuchholz on 8/31/23, 11:29 PM
Look into the core infrastructure layer. It incorporates generally useful, interesting topics that are hard problems to solve, including: computer science, cryptography, game theory, distributed systems, p2p networks, finance (tokenomics), social engineering, etc. There’s a lot you can learn from that alone, and you can always apply it elsewhere. Plus, most of the industry is open source, which helps with the learning aspect.
The more interesting protocols and applications imo are in the “DePIN” space (physical infra networks), which take advantage of web3’s permissionless nature (open identity framework with cryptographic, payments, consensus-based rules, run your own nodes, etc.). These can be built on top of chains like Ethereum or totally standalone blockchains. Plenty of companies are building things like decentralized satellite imaging, weather data, compute, storage, IoT, renewables, etc. Admittedly, it’s still very early; the user/dev experience is subpar, but abstractions will continue to improve things (e.g., no common user should need to worry about private keys).
The difference here with traditional web2 infra is that web3’s incentivized p2p network allows applications to take more of a crowdsourced approach, in a sense. Users can contribute but also earn for their contributions through protocol fees or reward mechanisms, which helps scale a protocol itself while—in the long term—changing how data moves on the internet.
Also—slight tangent, but calling blockchains a database is a misnomer. For example, Ethereum is a global state machine that provides shared state & execution, allowing anyone to run arbitrary programs on it. There is definitely (expensive) data storage as part of this, so you can only store a limited amount of data using smart contracts. Also, databases process data a bit differently and more efficiently. The native query features for blockchains (RPC calls) are nothing like that of a database (e.g., SQL), to the point where new networks on top of blockchains are built solely for indexing and querying that data (Tableland, The Graph, etc.).
And of course—there are other benefits like censorship resistance, but the tech itself is more intriguing!
by speedgoose on 9/1/23, 8:37 AM
Now, as others said you will probably never want to use a blockchain so you may not have to go too deep into the topic.
by colesantiago on 8/31/23, 7:10 PM
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