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Huawei new phone with Chinese 7nm SoC

by kappi on 8/31/23, 3:04 AM with 13 comments

• by Arnt on 8/31/23, 8:52 AM

  What does it actually mean when the 5G chip comes from a 7nm fab instead of a 5nm or 3nm? Does the battery have to weigh 1g more to supply the chip with the extra power and the phone have to be 1mm³ bigger to accommodate the bigger chip and battery, or will the numbers have be bigger?

  I opened an old phone when I replaced it a few years ago, and described each part to my children. The chips didn't account for much of the volume.

  I realise that a 3nm chip uses less power for the same processing than a 7nm chip does. Phones are mostly idle, though. Can receive/transmit 100Mbps or whatever, do receive/transmit very, very much less. I'd be thankful if someone who really knows about phone geometry/power could explain.

• by kappi on 8/31/23, 3:04 AM

  Huwaeri announces their newest phone with 100% Chinese components to time with US secretary's visit

• by ZEITVEKTOR on 8/31/23, 6:33 AM

  Mate60 has already been sold in China, but it is said that it is not sold to countries other than China. I wonder if there is any blogger who got this machine and filmed an explanatory video?

• by ftxbro on 8/31/23, 3:28 AM

  wait isn't 7nm pretty good, the hacker news story about a new thing by intel used 7nm too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37315802 probably you could do some stuff with enough 7nm chips

  > a lot of tech breakthrus needed to overcome lack of access to EUVs, TSMC foundries & American RF supply chain

  and not even use EUV at all? that is a pretty small number of nanometers

• by borissk on 8/31/23, 3:20 AM

  Big if true.

  Which Chinese fab can make 7nm chips? I thought the best they have is 14nm.

  Looks like the performance is similar to SD888 - which is not bad, but far behind the current SD8 gen 2.

• by throwaway4good on 8/31/23, 4:09 AM

  If Huawei can make enough of these I bet it will seriously cut into the sales of the upcoming iPhone 15 in China.