by arcanus on 5/16/23, 4:44 PM with 7 comments
by adam_arthur on 5/16/23, 6:58 PM
The office as it was once known is dead. So many in the commercial real estate space in denial about this. Local governments need to create large incentive packages for residential conversions to avoid downtown ghost towns.
The plus side is that having downtown be majority residential will make city living more entertaining/economical.
by dwrodri on 5/16/23, 9:18 PM
From my perspective as an employee in the tech sector, the greatest value adds to working in person are:
- Faster onboarding for new hires + mentorship in general.
- Better meetings for discussing big plans. Stand ups / check-ins aren't what I'm talking about here, more like "let's plan out this feature" or "what is our strategy for entering this new market?".
- Going over bugs / QA / odd testing results when the person who wrote the code != the person who found the problem, and both can meet. While bug-trackers convey info, I've found that getting to just sit down and look over code can make things much quicker.
I don't yearn to go to the office for deep work, or to answer emails, but if I'm going into an office for a "good" reason, then I might as well have space to do those things instead of having to travel elsewhere. I get that it's often a cost problem to make spaces for every employee to do deep work, which is why I'm very pro-don't-do-deep-work-at-the-office-when possible. Just pay your employees enough to afford a space where they can get that deep work done on days where they aren't being pulled into that meeting.
by jjk166 on 5/16/23, 9:45 PM
On the company side, either more employees can be hired while keeping the same office space or a smaller, less expensive space can be rented. With employee commutes being less of a factor, offices can be located closer to customers or in less expensive areas depending on the business needs. Likewise the geographic area from which employees can be hired significantly increases (even if not fully remote, a several hour drive or even a flight might be acceptable if they're only coming into the office on special occasions). You even get ethically dubious perks like getting people to work when they otherwise would have called out of the office, and offloading some of the costs of operating an office onto your employees.
It takes effort and capital to set up all the infrastructure necessary for remote work, it might take a while to realize the full benefits of remote work (moving to a lower cost location is not-trivial), and of course some jobs simply can't be done remotely. But once you already have gone remote, there's no logical business case for returning to the office. You are spending more money to be in an objectively worse position, possibly literally. Companies that choose to engage in this irrational behavior will lose employees and market share to competitors who better take advantage of the opportunity.
by dwrodri on 5/16/23, 8:59 PM
by pengaru on 5/16/23, 8:47 PM