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Show HN: PedalPC – Generate electricity and get exercise while you work

by watchdogtimer on 5/16/23, 10:30 AM with 16 comments

  • by gabrielsroka on 5/16/23, 3:39 PM

    This is fantastic! The first thing I thought of was this old Woody Allen film:

    https://youtu.be/Zhl-AHUS-f4

    The second thing was this graph by Doug Malewicki:

    https://www.oocities.org/mdetting/sports/hupgraph.gif

  • by O1111OOO on 5/16/23, 4:32 PM

    Hi an issue with your RSS (xml):

    If I'm on your site's main blog page : https://www.pedalpc.com/blog/ : and I click on an article, it will correctly display with the following URL : https://www.pedalpc.com/blog/how-much-electricity-can-human-...

    If I click the same article via the generated RSS I get a 404 because the URL is : https://www.pedalpc.com/PedalPC News/how-much-electricity-can-human-generate-per-day/

    Note: /blog/ ..VS.. /PedalPC News/

  • by jononor on 5/16/23, 4:53 PM

    Good job, hats off to you! I had the same idea some years back, and again during covid when I would o longer bike to work. As an old time bike mechanic and electronics engineer, I did some concept sketches but never ended up building it. You did and it looks good. Both the sturdy frame, the adjustments ability for seat and "handlebars", and the motor drive and electronics also look practical.

    For me personally I would miss the desk space - I really like to have ample space to put keyboard, paper notes, electronics etc on. How would one use this with a regular desk? Have you tried it?

  • by watchdogtimer on 5/16/23, 10:31 AM

    Hi HN,

    The PedalPC is a computer desk with a built-in, pedal-powered generator. It helps keep you fit by making useful, moderate physical activity an integral part of your workday. It also provides you with a clean, reliable, and dependable off-grid source of electricity that you can set up anywhere.

    I built it because I wanted some way to get exercise while I worked, but didn't want the energy I expended go to waste. I didn't see anything on the market, so I built my own. I've redesigned and rebuilt it several times over the years to arrive at what's shown here.

    I've been working on this as a side project since 2010. I'd appreciate some feedback on it before developing it further.

    The amount of electricity you can generate depends on your age, physical health, and how much you pedal each day. I'm 58 and produce around 220-240 Whr a day pedaling 3-4 hours per day. The PedalPC's maximum designed power output is 100 W. I typically generate about 60 W.

    That may not sound like much, but it's enough to power my computer, monitor, printer, desk lamp, and a cooling fan. It also recharges our phones and battery-powered LED lights we use around our home for nighttime illumination. It also powers our router and fiber network terminator to give us 24/7 broadband internet and wifi.

    The desk uses an e-bike direct-drive mini hub motor as the generator. It's driven by a toothed belt to minimize noise. The generator charges a 12 V LiFePO4 battery to smooth out the generator's variable output and store any excess energy generated for use when you're not pedaling.

    The desk has four 12 V DC power sockets and four pairs of USB power sockets. You can view the power consumption of each power socket and turn each one on or off from a dashboard in your web browser. Each 12 V socket also has PWM control, for varying things like cooling fan speed or beverage cup heater wattage.

    The dashboard is served from a small web server built into the desk. You can use it to host any other content you want, like a blog, wiki, small Fediverse instance, etc. (I use mine to host this project's web site.) You can also use it for a DNS server (e.g. pihole instance), file backup server, etc. Of course, you'll need to pedal enough each day to keep the server running! My dream would be to develop a network of desks like this, with each user hosting and powering their own content.

    I have built similar machines for two software developers in our town. One was mostly identical to the one shown here, with a built-in desktop. He uses it with his laptop. The other was built without a desktop, so he could use it with his existing standing desk. He uses his to charge batteries, power banks, and phones while he works. Both seem quite happy with them.

    Future plans are for a version made specifically for standing desks, better documentation, and an API to make it easier to integrate with things like Home Assistant, NextCloud, fitness loggers, or your own personal dashboard.

    Would you like a desk like this? (If so, please sign up for the newsletter in the footer on my site :) ). If not, what would you like to see instead? Any advice you may have is welcome. Thanks.

  • by hombre_fatal on 5/17/23, 1:39 AM

    Badass.

    I never thought a human could generate useful energy after a science museum exhibit from my childhood made you try to power a 60W filament light bulb with a bike and it was hard to keep it lit.

    Or a Youtube video where an olympic bicyclist can barely power a toaster enough to gently singe some toast.

    Makes more sense if the human isn’t solely responsible for providing all the energy on demand.

  • by mmsnberbar66 on 5/16/23, 12:12 PM

    This is really interesting and I would like to follow development.

    Unless I decide to live truly off grid, I guess I would not use this 8h/day, maybe 2h on average and otherwise continue to use a regular on-grid setup (which itself is already a variation of sitting, standing, and treadmill).

    Do you imagine the "switching" between setups to be made simpler?

  • by hombre_fatal on 5/17/23, 1:43 AM

    Also your username reminds of my 73yo electrical engineer dad. It feels like all my life he was muttering something about watchdog timers long before I figured out what those were. It always sounded exotic or maybe cartoony.
  • by nitish1998 on 5/16/23, 3:04 PM

    Amazing idea