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You can learn AI later

by beshrkayali on 5/10/23, 8:25 PM with 9 comments

• by cableshaft on 5/10/23, 9:16 PM

  I would agree that technically can wait, just like I can afford to wait to watch the newest Avatar movie, or wait to find a new job even though I'm at the recommended time to job hop to maximize salary gains (2 years), or how I waited a long, long time to first buy Bitcoin (I remember seeing it priced at $7/coin).

  But there might be some benefits to not waiting, and some opportunities that are available now that might not be available later. Like for me it's already saving me time in development and helping generate ideas for my board game designs that have been stuck, in some cases, for a long time.

  I would agree that you shouldn't be beating yourself up for not learning it right away and think you're in trouble if you don't learn it immediately. But it might be worth looking into anyway.

• by zerbin on 5/10/23, 11:53 PM

  The thing that always confuses me about "learn AI" in reference to Chat-GPT is... What exactly is there to learn? It's a web terminal that you type queries into and it returns results. Learning how to coerce it into giving you what you want is certainly an art, but no more esoteric an art than using Google to correctly return a useful result to your query - it's a lot of trial/error and simple logic about how to get it to respond with something useful.

  In the case where people think that they either already are or can rapidly become experts in NLP, language modeling, or other topics related to Machine Learning... Well that's just the Dunning-Kreuger effect on full display. While you may be able to develop rudimentary tools based on machine learning w.r.t. NLP, none of these lifetime React devs with "interest in the AI space" are doing anything close to that, or if they are, it falls amazingly short of a project like OpenAI's. At this point, AI is the new "data science" of 2023, a handy buzzword for laypeople to invoke when they want to gesture towards "high tech", and one that's frequently divorced from an advanced technical understanding about how training/using a service like ChatGPT works.

  As a closing anecdote, a friend of mine (would be startup founder) recently showed me her business plan for a "AI powered music generation service" where users could use a ChatGPT like interface to compel the computer to give them a "lofi beat to relax and study to" or an "upbeat electronic track for a space exploration video game stream" for YouTube videos or producing other forms of license-free music. When I started digging into how this was going to be done, the furthest we got is:

  > "You need to train a neural network on a tagged and curated list of music samples, and develop instruments to allow for additional human training/tagging and re-processing, in addition to developing a suite of MIDI -> audio tools (essentially a headless/distributed DAW) to actually produce music. "

  Their response?

  > We'll build the web interface first then we can iterate from there.

• by RecycledEle on 5/12/23, 5:27 PM

  Sure, wait to jump into The Singularity. It'll wait on you. /s

  By Singularity, I mean a time when tech moves so fast nobody can keep up with it.