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Meme group on Discord is focus of uproar over leaked Pentagon documents

by hi5eyes on 4/12/23, 8:01 PM with 310 comments

  • by neonate on 4/12/23, 10:19 PM

  • by v0idzer0 on 4/12/23, 10:57 PM

    NYT gets so much mileage out of “researchers say” and “experts say” yet they never cite anyone

  • by baryphonic on 4/13/23, 3:01 AM

    Notwithstanding the New York Times calling 4chan far-right and blatantly editorializing (seriously, if this is a news piece, why is there commentary about Discord's moderation policy?), I am most interested in whether the leaks are true.

    Has the White House been grossly over-representing Ukraine's chances? Will Ukraine be unable to protect their airspace after late May?

  • by notjulianjaynes on 4/12/23, 9:04 PM

    >"Losers. That’s who the U.S. government really has to fear.”

    The New York Times has published, by my count, 15 articles on this leak in the past 7 days.

  • by guardiangod on 4/12/23, 11:48 PM

    I am sad that Discord has replaced IRC as the chatroom of the internet's subculture.

  • by sega_sai on 4/13/23, 2:19 AM

    There is a very good Lawfare podcast with the Bellingcat investigator on that https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-rid-and-toler-la... which goes into more details on this.

  • by perryizgr8 on 4/13/23, 3:51 AM

    Wow that was content free. What is the actual info that was leaked?

  • by TrapLord_Rhodo on 4/13/23, 3:57 AM

    In an article about leaked documents, they sure don't talk alot about the documents that were leaked...

    Is it some kind of psych-op, LLM going on in the comments? No one's interested or curious about the documents and are spamming the page with 4chan shit?

  • by beebmam on 4/12/23, 8:54 PM

    I think the accusation that 4chan is a far-right message board is accurate, and I believe that accusation can be supported by showing that 4chan's explicitly stated rules can be used to plausibly deny this accusation, while demonstrating that they're are not enforced (or selectively enforced).

    4chan's Rule 3: "You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Troll posts, Racism, Anthropomorphic ("furry") pornography, Grotesque ("guro") images..."

    These rules are constantly being violated across many of the boards, and moderators rarely take action on some of the boards when posts are reported unless they explicitly violate US law. I've seen so many threads get to 400+ replies and fall off the boards, threads that blatantly violate these rules. The period of time after the 2020 election was brutal, an enormous amount of violent and racist content was not removed.

    Rules are often even selectively enforced, sculpting narratives that moderator cliques decide on (see /pol/ for example).

    At some point, it's worthwhile to ask "who benefits?" from these rules not being enforced. The kind of content that doesn't get moderated is strictly far-right stuff.

  • by mannyv on 4/12/23, 8:08 PM

    The NYT characterizes 4chan as a far-right message board, which is ridiculous.

    I mean, if giving the finger to pretty much everything is considered far-right, then what's considered far-left? Fundamentalism?

  • by Apocryphon on 4/12/23, 9:06 PM

    Is Discord PR active in this thread? TFA centers on that platform, with 4chan being mentioned only a handful of times, yet this thread so far is completely focused on 4chan.