by j4nek on 4/12/23, 2:17 PM with 332 comments
by zackmorris on 4/12/23, 6:19 PM
So what's the point of all that? Seriously, one server with 16 cores and the memory bandwidth and storage speed of SSD drives should be able to serve many thousands of simultaneous requests and millions of users per month. I can't help but feel that the cloud infrastructure and microservice movement of the 2010s was.. a scam.
I just need a place to run Docker, similar to what we had with Linode for running a shell 20 years ago. And don't tell me how to set it all up. Just give me a turnkey Terraform (or Ansible-inspired declarative configuration management tool) setup that has stuff like load balancing and some degree of more advanced features like denial of service protection out of the box. What we used to think of as managed hosting, but open source, and with sane defaults for running standard suites like Laravel, Rails, etc.
I have to assume that I'm just terribly out of it and something like this already exists. Otherwise I can't understand why someone doesn't just offer this and provide a way for us to pay them the millions of dollars we lose to spinning our wheels on cloud infrastructure with 1% utilization.
by Galaco on 4/12/23, 3:03 PM
The required either PayPal or passport. I have no PayPal account, and their 3rd party verification system only allows passport from your country of residence (signup requires providing a contact address and they pre fill using this address; you can’t change the passport country). I am a British citizen living in Japan, and therefore hold a British passport; there was no way for me to provide a Japanese passport. I asked what I should do to comply, and they banned my account 6 hours later.
I can’t be the only one to experience this, can I?
by brucethemoose2 on 4/12/23, 2:34 PM
But according to my Minecraft benchmarks in Oracle's instances, its better than old Skylake cloud instances... by how much is hard to say since other tenants generate so much variation, but there are proper reviews of the whole SoC floating around out there.
by aendruk on 4/12/23, 3:26 PM
I have no interest in subjecting myself to this treatment.
by Havoc on 4/12/23, 3:39 PM
https://hastebin.com/share/biyejiriyi.bash
https://hastebin.com/share/unocorikef.bash
by eis on 4/12/23, 2:43 PM
Ran the kernel build benchmark (result is seconds, lower is better):
AMD64:
272.916
273.128
270.477
ARM64:
1011.799
1004.713
1015.261
So the ARM CAX21 instance for 6.49 EUR/month took roughly 3.7x as long as the AMD CPX31 instance which costs 13.60 EUR/month. A roughly 2.1x price difference. Here the ARM instance did not shine in a kernel-compile-per-eur metric.Also ran sysbench cpu --time=60 --threads=4 run
AMD64: events per second: 14681.70
ARM64: events per second: 13455.11
In this test the both are very close.by cbg0 on 4/12/23, 2:46 PM
sysbench cpu --threads=2 run
Intel events per second: 1864.20
Arm events per second: 6687.05
Coremark
Intel iterations/sec: 20077.633516
Arm iterations/sec: 23625.767837
by solalf on 4/12/23, 2:30 PM
by syntaxing on 4/12/23, 2:54 PM
by e63f67dd-065b on 4/12/23, 8:14 PM
Unless I'm blind, the price clearly says 4.52 EUR/mo with IPv4 at https://www.hetzner.com/cloud for a CAX11 instance, the smallest listed there.
Edit: nevermind, I didn't deselect Germany's 19% VAT. It is indeed 3.79 euros before sales tax.
by trollied on 4/12/23, 2:48 PM
by jacooper on 4/12/23, 3:05 PM
by trvz on 4/12/23, 4:08 PM
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Intel 1-core VPS single: 719
(2 GB RAM)
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Intel 2-core VPS single: 729
Intel 2-core VPS multi: 1402
(4 GB RAM)
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AMD 2-core VPS single: 1141
AMD 2-core VPS multi: 2214
(2 GB RAM)
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Ampere 2-core VPS single: 872
Ampere 2-core VPS multi: 1716
(4 GB RAM)
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Ampere 16-core VPS single: 880
Ampere 16-core VPS multi: 12143
(32 GB RAM)
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And for some fun, my iPad Pro from 2018, single: 1135
If Android CPUs are 4 years behind Apple, then Arm on servers is maybe 8 years.
by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on 4/12/23, 3:43 PM
by jacob019 on 4/12/23, 2:45 PM
by thejosh on 4/12/23, 3:04 PM
by pachico on 4/12/23, 4:00 PM
It's been a wonderful ride. It's cheap and reliable.
I wish our team was big enough to afford having to deal with dedicated hardware.
by ericls on 4/12/23, 2:25 PM
by g42gregory on 4/12/23, 7:45 PM
by e40 on 4/12/23, 3:48 PM
by nathants on 4/13/23, 3:04 AM
elastic aws cloud billed by the second is for great good. glad to see this continuing to mature.
neither of these is great when they are idle 90% of the time. one of them is really not great.
why are there so much idle yet paid for resources? it’s complicated, and not for technical reasons.
empty housing is similar.
by jayonsoftware on 4/12/23, 5:14 PM
by drcongo on 4/12/23, 3:38 PM
by candiddevmike on 4/12/23, 2:48 PM
by lopkeny12ko on 4/12/23, 3:13 PM
The latest Xeon and EPYC offerings are very performance competitive, I doubt we need to overhaul and entire processor ISA paradigm for continued improvements.
by kseistrup on 4/12/23, 2:51 PM
by alberth on 4/13/23, 12:54 AM
But their hardware design could improve. See picture below.
by betimsl on 4/12/23, 6:37 PM
by okasaki on 4/12/23, 3:17 PM
CAX11 - 3.95eur/m
CAX21 - 7.19/m
CAX31 - 14.39/m
CAX41 - 28.79/m
1 ipv6 costs me 0.6/m