by lopkeny12ko on 3/31/23, 1:47 PM
> It has been created to reduce visual complexity, provide easy access to essential features, and progressively disclose complex functionality as needed – resulting in a cleaner look and feel.
Please, Jetbrains, and everyone else out there, I beg you, please stop shipping these redesigned UIs that look prettier but are infinitely times less functional and reduce information density by orders of magnitude. Especially for something like an IDE, with a huge base of power users--all this serves is dumbing down software when the vast majority of your users want the exact opposite.
by hospitalJail on 3/31/23, 1:57 PM
I've fully moved past jetbrains. The program is slower than every other IDE I use. Any time you reboot or change environments there it takes like 3-10 minutes with my tower. I know that seems like a niche reason, but when no other IDE has this issue, and they have similar/better plugins; why bother?
Since the VIM addon of Spyder, I've been hooked. I personally like the data visualizations the best. They are fast and have lots of features. Seems like spyder is underrated in the python world, although VSCode is ofc incredibly dynamic.
by joppy on 3/31/23, 12:46 PM
I hope they also worked on removing the many UI bugs from PyCharm remote: laggy scrolling while in the diff view, some editor settings like rulers at 100/120 chars not working properly, some settings panes lagging out until the editor is restarted, etc etc. I need to develop on a remote VM and I’m using VSCode at the moment because it’s remote story is less buggy, but would much rather be using PyCharm.
by eCa on 3/31/23, 12:46 PM
> It has been created to reduce visual complexity, provide easy access to essential features, and progressively disclose complex functionality as needed – resulting in a cleaner look and feel.
I’ll probably try it out in a while, but the only thing I potentially care about of those things is ”easy access to essential features”. If clean look makes things harder to find, then that would be a sign that they don’t know their users.
But I’ll wait to judge until I’ve tried it.
by lindbergh on 3/31/23, 12:54 PM
Interesting. I heard many good things about Pycharm, but it kind of looks bloated? How does it compare to VS Code (which is quite good (notebook and repl support mostly), but not great, in particular regarding the debugging experience)?
by mellosouls on 3/31/23, 2:22 PM
I'm afraid I lost faith in PyCharm etc when the professional version I paid for on the basis of its promise to allow remote development and debugging didn't remotely (ha!) work.
Switched to VSCode and haven't looked back.
by foxandmouse on 3/31/23, 1:59 PM
I think that IDEs a becoming more useful since our reliance on LLM tooling for code production increases. That said, why isn't there any good alternative to webstorm?
by hed on 3/31/23, 1:20 PM
The remote Jupyter support is very cool. Is there a managed service out there? I think my organization could benefit greatly from common Jupyter infrastructure, but the calculus changes drastically if my tiny team is on the hook for keeping it running.
by mitchellpkt on 4/1/23, 4:09 PM
I’ve been using pycharm pretty much daily for a few years, and switched to the new UI a few weeks ago.
I like it, especially when doing dev work with only one monitor. You might hate it, but it’s worth giving it a shot.
by qikInNdOutReply on 3/31/23, 1:10 PM
Still a knights battle helmet when it comes to looking on text.
Transparent Modal background to the text is were its at in my opinion. That and buttons on the side. One key to switch into the background. One key to switch the modes.
by meijer on 3/31/23, 12:51 PM
The new UI looks a bit like Visual Studio Code, I think?
by bitL on 3/31/23, 1:11 PM
Will JetBrains IDEs survive VSCode + GPT plugins combo?
by onphonenow on 3/31/23, 12:46 PM
Astro support - interesting