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Whats Up with Nvidia

by catasaurus on 2/13/23, 1:56 AM with 4 comments

I've been kind of conflicted lately. On one hand, Nvidia produces high end chips that meet the demand. But on the other hand, they just suck. Some of the chips you can't even buy if your not some corporate client, or whatever you have to do to qualify. But even if you could, who in their right mind would spend 10 grand on one GPU. Because of this, the overall tech community seems to hate them because of this. But, many other places (the media, etc) heap insane amounts of praise on them for producing "cutting edge" chips for AI. Can they not see how overpriced they are for everything? Even for gaming. The new 4000 series largely marketed towards gamers, is also considered insanely overpriced. They are beginning to face competition in that area, with Intel and AMD having released budget options that have come close to rivaling the flagship Nvidia GPUs. Close. Nvidia still dominates, but how can they not realize that they are going to DIE if they do not bring down their prices. It can be done. The Intel Arc series is around 200 dollars (even less). Intel Arc does not do very well on the performance side, it runs games mostly as well as chips from a couple years ago. But still, 200 dollars? So here I ask, what the hell is up with Nvidia?
  • by catasaurus on 2/14/23, 11:08 PM

    This article explains the chip market in a very good way, and articulates what I was trying to say about the A100: https://geohot.github.io//blog/jekyll/update/2021/06/13/a-br...

    Nvidia is a good chip company as a whole, but the A100 is a real problem.

  • by _yo2u on 2/15/23, 7:28 PM

    A100 is an enterprise class GPU like AMD's MI series and Intel Ponte Vecchio. In that regard the pricing is not unreasonable - They are in separate class from Geforce or Radeon cards.
  • by nemothekid on 2/13/23, 2:11 AM

    >Can they not see how overpriced they are for everything

    Overpriced compared to what? The A100 (the $10,000 GPU) has no competition. Tesla bought ~6,000 A100s for themselves. The moat in AI/CUDA means Intel nor AMD can reasonably catch up.