by karmanyaahm on 12/26/22, 4:27 PM with 216 comments
by wpietri on 12/26/22, 4:56 PM
I started out just talking to them and throwing whole peanuts (roasted, unsalted) on the ground while I was doing it. They looked at me warily and did not come close. Later on, the peanuts would disappear, but I was never sure why. This period lasted months.
Eventually they would come down when I threw a peanut and approach it warily. If it was closer than 15 or 20 feet to me, I'd have to back away to give them enough room. Then I could throw another peanut near (but not at!) them and they'd walk over to get it.
After many more months of this (six, I'd guess) they were somewhat less wary of me and would hang out on our back fence sometimes. So we worked out a ritual. I would place a piece of food on the fence rail and back away; they'd hop over and get it. As he suggested, I would talk with them as I did it. I'm sure the words didn't matter, but I suspect the tone did, and it helped me focus on being soothing with voice, body language, and behavior.
Toward the end of my time there we got so that one of them would take high-value food, like a chicken bone with bits of meat left on it, straight out of my hand. That one, who we called George, would happily sit pretty close to me after eating. Out of arm's reach, of course; they were still a bit wary. But it would settle down and chill out. Truly a magical experience to just hang out with a big, smart bird like that. You looking at one another, both trying to figure out exactly what the other's deal is. And me, at least, knowing, that I'd never fully know.
by tasty_freeze on 12/26/22, 5:10 PM
At first she tried to thwart the them, but in no time started recognizing the squirrels as individuals and noticing their personality and behavioral differences, and gave them names. After that, she stopped buying birdseed and began stocking the feeder with various nuts, and setting up some ramps and jumping obstacles, but not to any crazy level, just something to watch.
They recognized her as the person that fills the feeder with nuts. Once she tried hand feeding them it took only a couple weeks for the first brave one, then other squirrels didn't want to be left out and came up to her too. When the feeder goes empty, they'll stand on it and peer into the living room to see if she is around. Once they make eye contact, they hop down and run to the door to get fed.
My wife has some chronic health issues that mostly keep her housebound, except for doctor appointments. The squirrels have been a godsend -- even on her worst days, the squirrels make her smile and bring her joy at random times throughout the day.
by blippage on 12/26/22, 5:02 PM
At first, it was more-or-less luck as to who and when a crow found it. But they began to catch on, and I'm pretty sure at least one was waiting for me. They were either on the post, or nearby. They fly off when you approach, of course. But they get the idea, and I know they're watching. I try to step back, but they need quite a large distance before they'll try to take the biscuit. Crows seem to know that humans are always up to something. The probably know that it's always plans within plans when it comes to those damn hairless apes. Is he really being generous, or is he running some inscrutable psyop?
The problem is that I haven't been consistent the last few days, so the crows lose interest.
A few days ago, mind, there was a crow sitting on the fence a few feet from the house. He flew off as I left the house, but he didn't seem particularly alarmed. He flew up to the top of a conifer quite a few yards away. But I knew he was watching. So I put a biscuit on a post and went for a walk. When I came back the biscuit was gone.
I guess what I like about crows is that they're really smart, so you're always left wondering as to how much they've cottoned on to and how much of it is just blind coincidence.
by joe__f on 12/26/22, 8:27 PM
He was flying low across the road near my house and I saw him get hit by a car. So I went over to stand in the road and make sure the other cars coming drove around him, and I picked him up. One of his eyes was bloody where he'd been hit, and he was stunned and very distressed. I kind of just knew what to do, I held him in my hands by the side of the road for a few minutes which I think helped him calm down from the shock, and then he jumped down and sat for a bit when he was ready. I stayed and watched him for a while, but I could tell he'd had enough after a bit so I just left him.
I didn't see him fly away but I don't think his things were broken and he wasn't there the next morning. I guess he probably only had one working eye, I don't know how well birds manage with only one eye. Maybe he didn't make it but I hope he did, and I'm sure he would've been stuck shocked and panicking in the road until he got flattened without my help.
It was cool.
by PreInternet01 on 12/26/22, 5:53 PM
Pigeons, on the other hand, are the species that gave birth to the term 'bird brain'. They will happily sit in front of oncoming traffic forever, then take evasive action that is, like, the opposite of the optimal strategy...
by zestyping on 12/27/22, 3:32 AM
Here's a video of one of them solving a couple of puzzles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x0PwKHvW10
And here's one of them taking a bath, just because it's so cute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AgAIh43OUs
It's a highly entertaining hobby, and I'm excited to continue putting out more interesting and complex objects for them to interact with!
by status200 on 12/26/22, 5:36 PM
by residualmind on 12/27/22, 11:54 AM
This changed when I got a dog and moved to a different part of the city. The dog loves scaring away birds by running up to them, which the crows weren't happy about obviously. I tried to prevent the dog scaring crows (pigeons were O.K.) but she managed to scare them a few times anyways.
The crows didn't like this. Up to a point where whenever the dog and me encountered crows, the birds would warn and call others, swarming around us in a threatening, scary way.
But after months of me carefully keeping the dog from scaring the crows, pulling her back on the leash and letting her know the crows are our friends, the crows are friendly again. Even when we walk closely by crows, they don't mind. I'm 100% convinced the crows have learned that the dog is under my control and I keep her from charging at them.
No more warning caws and ganging up on us. Such amazing birds.
by newshorts on 12/26/22, 11:13 PM
A while back I had found what I thought was an injured bird. I captured it and brought it to a rehabilitation center for wild birds.
Turns out I had just capture a baby crow that hadn’t learned to fly yet, which explains why there were two other crows (parents) barking at me from trees as I tried to capture their chick.
After the rehab center verified I had not injured the chick during capture they let me return it where I found it.
Let me just say the parents were not happy with me when I let that chick out of the box they started divebombing me.
I had my own baby about a month later and as I was carrying my kid in from the parking lot I got dive Bombed by a crow.
I’ve always thought it was one of the parents retaliating.
From that point on every time they saw me they would start barking at me
by allenbrunson on 12/26/22, 4:46 PM
all hail decentralized social media!
by jmann99999 on 12/26/22, 8:35 PM
We live in the mountains in North America. We were tearing down and replacing our deck when the builders came upon a nest with multiple eggs (finch eggs). Thankfully the builders asked us what to do.
Our family decided to do some quick research, build a birdhouse within 10 meters of the previous nest, and put the eggs inside. We were able to watch as the mother bird found her eggs and cared for them through their hatching.
Years later, so many of them come back every Spring. It makes us smile and wonder what would have happened if we wouldn't have moved those eggs a decade ago. I'd like to attribute how friendly the birds seem to be to some sort of anthropomorphism, but that is probably not the case.
Regardless, even the "most basic" birds are wonderful.
by cc101 on 12/26/22, 5:59 PM
by visitect on 12/26/22, 7:53 PM
Now it feels like we are old friends. If they happen to be around when we pop out of the house, one will vocalize and come near. Others show up soon after. My wife chats with them and leaves various snacks. They really love peanut butter sandwiches! I kid my wife about how much she spoils the crows with the peanut butter, but she just laughs about her "extra shiny" crows.
by jalada on 12/26/22, 10:59 PM
The closest to a solution has been to cover every window with outside blinds to at least stop them smashing into them.
I stayed with them for a few months and was woken up by this every morning without fail. Honestly, it was pretty distressing.
I love birds and feed them in our garden (so do my parents!), but I wouldn't want to encourage crows to follow me around after that. I'm always in two minds about this tendency for humans to...humanise...animal behaviour.
by keeptrying on 12/26/22, 6:17 PM
Over the last 5 years I've realized that there are a pair of crows which essentially own the airspace above our house and in front of it.
Each time a hawk or owl or crane flies into this airspace, it will be hounded by these 2 crows. And it happens pretty often.
(One of the crows only has 1 leg - that's why I know its the same 2 each time. We've named him Blackbeard.)
I imagine there is so much of nature we just blindly miss.
by starkd on 12/26/22, 5:32 PM
by phillc73 on 12/26/22, 5:37 PM
Over the course of a couple of years, the magpie pair even brought their chicks along for a free feed. At one point there were six or seven regular breakfast guests.
One of the original magpies would practically eat our of my mother's hand, the other wasn't quite so bold.
Sadly, they stopped coming at one point. My mum heard from a neighbour that a large number of local birds, including magpies, had been poisoned. I guess that's what happened to them.
by _448 on 12/27/22, 11:23 AM
Having watched this since my childhood I too had once befriended, in my case Cows and Sheeps from the nearby fields, while on my daily walks few years ago. I use to sing songs and they use to gather around me. It was so amazing to watch. Afterwards even if I did not sing they use to gather around just after seeing me. The sad part was some of these animals were raised for slaughter and I thought making them believe in humans was not the right thing to do. It use to be a dilemma for me whenever I saw them on whether I should engage with them.
Having communication with animals and seeing them respond back is one of the most amazing experiences. Most pet owners will understand this.
by kposehn on 12/27/22, 1:00 AM
They’re amazingly intelligent and very gregarious once they trust you. A particularly brave one will even perch just out of reach and snatch cashews out of the air. Others will hover over me in the breeze asking for treats and catch them as well.
They definitely train you too - they know where I live. If they don’t get fed for a while, they’ll croak their frustrations down my chimney at me.
Amazing birds and I feel very fortunate to have formed some bond with them.
by 0xmarcin on 12/26/22, 6:11 PM
by macrolime on 12/26/22, 8:23 PM
Turns out one of my friends neighbors used to feed the crows and taught one of them to say hello like a parrot.
by eyelidlessness on 12/26/22, 7:03 PM
And the crows definitely know us. And recognized us when we moved to another neighborhood. They know we give them a wide berth if they’re doing their thing on the ground whenever we can, crossing the road or splitting the middle wherever possible. And they calmly move aside when they see that we can’t. Sometimes one will see us and (I think) find a perch to announce our approach to the others. At first this seemed like a warning, but now it feels more like a friendly heads up.
I don’t regularly give them food, but I did sometimes leave little stuff for them at a designated place outside my last house. It was an accident the first time, I had left a little cup of salsa out on top of my yard/food waste bin and forgotten it was there until I saw a crow fly off with it. After that, any deliberate offering left there was swept up within minutes.
I’d like to make better friends with them, but most of my encounters are with pup in tow. While she definitely understands they’re different than other birds, she still needs fairly strict control to keep her behaved while we pass by. So friendly respect at a distance feels more appropriate.
by jamal-kumar on 12/27/22, 1:35 AM
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I5Vm_YO_MY
by paulette449 on 12/27/22, 1:11 PM
[1] - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77166.A_Year_in_the_Main... [2] - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/254704.Mind_of_the_Raven [3] - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/122665.Ravens_in_Winter [4] - https://www.audubon.org/news/how-tell-raven-crow
by smusamashah on 12/27/22, 12:48 AM
If crows are cawing it means there are guests outside.
It won't make sense in urban areas much but it does in rural. Since they are intelligent and good at recognizing faces, there cawing can mean there is someone unknown outside.
by shrimpx on 12/26/22, 9:02 PM
by 082349872349872 on 12/26/22, 5:08 PM
Does anyone know if the same goes for corvids?
by geocrasher on 12/26/22, 4:57 PM
by senthilnayagam on 12/26/22, 6:29 PM
by osrec on 12/26/22, 7:30 PM
Edit: also faster.
by Waterluvian on 12/26/22, 9:13 PM
I want to say this was the beginning of a jay/cat alliance but nothing came of it. The jays are around all summer though which is nice.
by denton-scratch on 12/27/22, 1:42 PM
by acyou on 12/27/22, 12:30 AM
by 11235813213455 on 12/26/22, 6:13 PM
by vintermann on 12/27/22, 10:08 AM
The magpies certainly recognize me now, and do a kind of friendly swoop in front of me to make sure I see them. Sometimes the crows sweep in and grab the treat, to sharp protest from the magpie. And in the summer half of the year, the crows too sometimes get bullied away by a seagull.
I have a feeling the magpies definitively don't like it if I deliberately feed any of the bigger birds. But even the seagulls (which are rather aggressive when they have chicks) have gotten noticeably nicer to me when they've understood there's a chance at an unsalted peanut from time to time.
by lovehashbrowns on 12/27/22, 3:19 PM
by cainxinth on 12/26/22, 5:22 PM
I can relate
by BLKNSLVR on 12/27/22, 11:29 AM
I then had to go back to my desk, not knowing the end result.
A couple of hours later we had our monthly all-hands meeting in the kitchen / lunch room space.
For the full hour of the meeting, there was a juvenile magpie standing on the balcony floor, at the door, looking inside and warbling.
I'm assuming it liked the country cheese sample.
by loudthing on 12/26/22, 7:34 PM
by dilap on 12/26/22, 5:11 PM
by maxnoe on 12/27/22, 9:27 AM
They are incredibly smart and very tame. They will happily land on your shoulder while you try to eat your lunch and pick away into your lunch box.
They will do loopings above groups of tourists, land, beg for food, and when they receive food, do some more fly-bys and loopings.
They bury food in the ground and I bet they find all of it later.
I am pretty sure they recognize people, as they came straight for me and my wife when we were hiking and not to the other people around...
by sacnoradhq on 12/26/22, 10:26 PM
They're also quite socially/situationally adept. A crow snuck into my mechanic's garage and stole a bag of sunflower seeds on top of a rolling toolbox about 30 ft / 10 m into the building without being seen. They then proceeded to take their loot back to their murder and had a sunflower seed party in the alley.
by dhosek on 12/26/22, 10:28 PM
by Dazzler5648 on 12/28/22, 1:47 AM
I definitely wasn't expecting the author to be a biologist. Where I live, fed wild animals are dead wild animals. Because you don't know when that animal who is now used to being fed is gonna break into the neighbors' houses or simply beg at the door, and get trapped or shot or poisoned or all three. It happens. Dang.
by dssagar93 on 12/27/22, 5:19 AM
by memling on 12/27/22, 12:02 AM
by macawfish on 12/26/22, 8:24 PM
by Reason077 on 12/26/22, 5:45 PM
I’m no friend of crows (specifically, magpies), having been attacked by them in the past. They’re also considered a non-native, invasive species in my country.
by jimmaswell on 12/26/22, 8:03 PM
by shmerl on 12/26/22, 11:05 PM
by futuretaint on 12/26/22, 10:14 PM
by ankraft on 12/26/22, 6:05 PM
by infradig on 12/26/22, 11:51 PM
by mulmen on 12/26/22, 6:07 PM
My policy on neighborhood birds has always been neutrality.
by jerrygoyal on 12/27/22, 5:42 AM
by fencepost on 12/26/22, 7:45 PM
by theteapot on 12/26/22, 7:59 PM
by ericlnu on 12/27/22, 6:28 AM
by Jackson12 on 12/26/22, 4:43 PM