by dang on 12/22/22, 5:28 PM
by mpol on 12/22/22, 3:37 PM
Aha, technological solutions for social problems, who could think that would not work :)
Driving a car in public traffic is very much a social situation. A wink here, a small hand or head gesture there. Even looking away and avoiding communication alltogether is part of social behaviour and tells something. Even the same gesture in a different context says something else.
Parking a car, driving in congested traffic and just keeping a lane is all doable by technology. Beyond that it needs a different and social way of thinking.
by rob74 on 12/22/22, 4:13 PM
Shouldn't it be "pulling out", rather than "putting out"? Also, they already pulled out in October, this article is about their efforts to retain the developers that were working on the AI solution. And it's not "(all) german car makers", just VW and Ford (Ford apparently means Ford as a whole, not just Ford Germany?) - no idea how the self-driving plans of the others are doing...
by coliveira on 12/22/22, 3:51 PM
Five years ago, car companies were saying around the world that in five years, their cars would be 100% self driving. I said it was bonkers, unless they create a new infrastructure for self driving cars (new roads that can be used only by these types of cars).
by jqpabc123 on 12/22/22, 3:10 PM
So they finally figured out that "self driving" was really just a divisionary/marketing tactic with lots of legal liability?
When a "self driving" car kills someone, guess who shares legal responsibility?
by xnx on 12/22/22, 4:37 PM
In related news, I'd like to announce that I am ending my training for the 2024 Olympics. That car companies are giving up on this doesn't change the story at all because they were never real competitors.
It never made any sense that manufactures of cars thought they could make self driving systems. Experience with supply chains, manufacturing, and marketing have zero translation to the problem space of self driving: sensing, interpreting, and decision making.
by JumpinJack_Cash on 12/22/22, 3:50 PM
Now we only need them to pull out from the EV race to focus on what they do best:
Surround the paying customers with gasoline powered opulence to enable them to enjoy the AutoBahn at 250 km/h.
A video of a 2021 S-Klasse on the AutoBahn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4F9n7sjIXU
by affgrff2 on 12/22/22, 4:20 PM
I cannot read the full article, but it mainly deals with Ford (obviously not German) and VW pulling out of a startup I never heard of.
Where the headline comes from, I don't know ... The original is roughly: VW annoys Argo AI ...
by karaterobot on 12/22/22, 4:05 PM
Is there a translation link, or should I just pretend to have read the article so I can give my thoughts about self-driving cars? Fine either way.
by guax on 12/22/22, 4:56 PM
It's kinda funny that we'll try to invent advanced ai that can perform a near miracle of technological advancement before investing in proper public transit.
by jebronie on 12/22/22, 3:49 PM
its a capitulation, the german car makers will be gone in 20 years
by mertlx on 12/22/22, 3:38 PM
I'm not surprised. People
want to drive, the market for those who want to be driven around by an AI chauffeur is minimal.
Add the legal liabilities, and it's a fantasy project with hardly any takers like the metaverse.