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ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

by lucia-wermer on 11/4/22, 2:06 AM with 517 comments

  • by neonate on 11/4/22, 5:25 AM

  • by sixtyfourbits on 11/4/22, 3:07 AM

    Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923

    Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits.

    Hopefully this will encourage more people to go back to the original libgen. I suspect Z-library's popularity was because of a better interface and larger collection, but I think lots of people didn't realize libgen offers all its books/papers for free without limits.

  • by idontwantthis on 11/4/22, 2:32 AM

    Purchased ebooks are like ebooks except you can only read them in Adobe's shitty app, you can't share them with your kids, and you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow.

    I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase!

  • by bytm3 on 11/4/22, 2:52 AM

    The U.S. Postal Inspection Service supports and protects the U.S. Postal Service and its customers by enforcing the laws that defend the nation’s mail system from illegal or dangerous use.

    What do they have to do with ebooks??

  • by runjake on 11/4/22, 5:07 AM

    z-lib.org is responsible for me buying more books in the past couple years than I’ve ever bought.

    It essentially acted like an in-person bookstore for me that allowed me to browse a book to determine whether it was worth buying.

    Before z-lib, I generally tended toward avoiding wasting money. I guess I’m back to that again.

    (I like paper copies of tech books and Kindle copies of novels so I can sync reading and highlights between devices)

  • by ccine on 11/4/22, 5:45 AM

    I have tried my best to skim through all the discussions and no one seems to have noticed the demand for zlibrary in third world countries. In a country like China, it is the only avenue for most researchers and students at the bottom to gain expertise. When you talk about classism, you should not ignore such groups.
  • by m348e912 on 11/4/22, 2:37 AM

    At least there is still tor. loginzlib2vrak5zzpcocc3ouizykn6k5qecgj2tzlnab5wcbqhembyd .onion

    Update:

    The z-library wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library) lists the following zlib onion domain which doesn't require a login:

    zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52fad.onion

  • by CameronNemo on 11/4/22, 2:36 AM

    In an effort to prevent blacklisting of domains (oftentimes by internet providers at the DNS-level in accordance with legal procedures), Z-Library uses a homepage at a memorable domain. The homepage does not contain any infringing content, but instead lists many working mirror domains for different regions. These domains can be switched and do not need to be as memorable. For instance, some include numbers.

    Nice try, I guess :/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library

  • by SergeAx on 11/4/22, 12:38 PM

    Z-Library is still accessible via TOR. You may find and onion-URL in Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library
  • by laichzeit0 on 11/4/22, 4:38 AM

    Sorry but I need to browse through your book before I buy it. I do this for all the books I own. I need to see if I’d like it or not. Also, I hate reading on the computer and Kindle is ok but I like making notes in my books so I want the physical copy. If it wasn’t for library genesis or Z-lib I wouldn’t have bought as many books as I have. It’s an indispensable bullshit filter for me. There is no other option for me to browse through books without leaving my house, or even looking at much older books that are only available second hand without these digital catalogues.
  • by bytm3 on 11/4/22, 2:51 AM

    The U.S. Postal Inspection Service supports and protects the U.S. Postal Service and its customers by enforcing the laws that defend the nation’s mail system from illegal or dangerous use.

    What do they have to do with ebooks???

  • by defrost on 11/4/22, 3:18 AM

    There are mirrors and torrents and extensions of the Z-Library collection, off the top of my head see:

    https://libgen.fun/

    http://pilimi.org/

  • by GolDDranks on 11/4/22, 7:17 AM

    What surprised me was that there is something called "United States Postal Inspection Service" that has some police-like law enforcement powers. Every so often you TIL something about the US.
  • by user3939382 on 11/4/22, 4:45 AM

    More impetus to sharpen our tools and their use to evade control of information by our corrupt, out of control, corporate-owned faux democratic government overlords.

    The lesson is: more tor, more IPFS, DHT, encryption, federated protocols, mesh networks, and P2P in general.

    This contest of power is one of the very few the People have any hope of winning.

  • by dang on 11/4/22, 5:27 AM

    Related:

    Z Library - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29365627 - Nov 2021 (36 comments)

    Zshelf: Z-Library books downloader for reMarkable tablet - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26355778 - March 2021 (51 comments)

  • by hda2 on 11/4/22, 3:48 AM

    Domain seizures will always be a problem for networks that rely on centralized name resolution. I'm glad networks like Tor and IPFS exist.
  • by askridga666 on 11/4/22, 6:48 AM

    My links collection of book-piracy services and DRM-free books

    https://hexchills.gitbook.io/

  • by synergy20 on 11/4/22, 3:21 AM

    All books should now have a link or paypal email at the back book cover so whoever read the book without pay, then find it useful and valuable, to have an effective way to send money over.

    yeah it's not ideal but, there might be quite some readers pay if they know how to do that easily.

  • by mjreacher on 11/4/22, 2:27 PM

    I'm reading on the zlibrary subreddit that supposedly there were some popular (>300k views) TikToks going around showing that you could use z-lib to get free books. https://torrentfreak.com/tiktok-blocks-z-library-hashtag-pen...

    I wonder if this is related.

  • by collegeburner on 11/4/22, 2:34 AM

    bookszlibb74ugqojhzhg2a63w5i2atv5bqarulgczawnbmsb6s6qead.onion still up on TOR. fuck them i aint paying for my textbooks. never had a book bill higher than $50 and not about to start now.
  • by drpixie on 11/4/22, 2:52 AM

    zlib might be infringing, and obviously they CAN do it, but: Why the USPS? (They presumably have no direct rights over the material.) And presumably the USPS has no actual rights in Poland or Hong Kong. :(
  • by Cypher on 11/4/22, 2:54 AM

    I was never going to buy the book anyway.
  • by mmastrac on 11/4/22, 2:20 AM

    How did they seize b-ok.cc?
  • by addminztrator on 11/4/22, 3:01 PM

    Well, if the domain names are seized, maybe we could connect directly to the IP address? Does anyone know the IP address of z-lib domains (b-ok.cc or z-lib.org)? This is going to make me want to keep a local log of all IP addresses which the domain names map to :(
  • by gustavorg on 11/4/22, 1:08 PM

  • by Scoundreller on 11/4/22, 2:23 AM

    This link doesn’t explain much.

    And at least in Canada, doesn’t show any seizure notice.

  • by irrational on 11/4/22, 4:17 PM

    Well, the one good thing about this is it has forced me to learn about Tor and to download the Tor browser. I'd heard about Tor before, but never really looked into it.
  • by m00dy on 11/4/22, 11:34 AM

    So, does that mean any domain can be seized by a court order ?
  • by cft on 11/4/22, 2:29 AM

  • by only4here on 11/6/22, 2:34 AM

    I always loved downloading them DRM-free. Because it felt like I had actually owned it instead of just reading it from some website that could snatch it back at any second. I know Library Genesis is still up and running fine, but this is a warning of things that could happen.
  • by addminztrator on 11/4/22, 11:59 PM

    An update: I tried accessing the IP address directly a while ago and the Department of Homeland security was displaying a copyright notice saying that copyright infringement is punishable by a fine up to $200,000. Currently, there is an FBI notice saying they had a warrant from a New York court.
  • by enme on 11/4/22, 2:57 PM

    Anyone mention Nexus on IPFS: http://k51qzi5uqu5dk9ji4oek1h08rg5ksqc4fjsqtyi43h3z6zuddwpgu...

    Works just like libgen and is getting larger over time.

  • by dredmorbius on 11/4/22, 4:39 PM

    More information and background at Torrentfreaks:

    <https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-authorities-seize-z-library-dom...>

  • by lawgimenez on 11/4/22, 11:07 AM

    One of my alternate source is also down, 1lib.ph. I should have downloaded my to read books.
  • by srmarm on 11/5/22, 10:39 AM

    Does the Department of Justice not think it's worth spending half an hour making something a bit more accessible? No text, not even an alt tag on that image. Shockingly bad and surprisingly non-compliant!
  • by paxlarevalx on 11/5/22, 11:42 AM

    Como va a hacer a partir de ahora habrá una nueva página en la web o tendremos que descargar alguna app amo mucho a z-library para no saber como ingresar de nuevo, encontré libros muy buenos ahí
  • by fortran77 on 11/4/22, 3:52 AM

    You can still access it on tor, for example:

    http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52...

  • by DeathArrow on 11/4/22, 12:49 PM

    Don't use US based domains if you suspect there might be a possibility in the future that some US agency or entity can seize you domains? Applies for any other jurisdiction.
  • by paperbenni on 11/5/22, 9:54 PM

    I think it's really funny that the actual legal notice that's now on the site has a background image that could come from a 90s hacker movie.
  • by xch on 11/4/22, 7:36 AM

    This will happen to proof of stake based blockchains
  • by AlexCoventry on 11/4/22, 3:51 AM

    Why the Postal Inspection Service? (Site's down for me, ATM.)
  • by Zuouo on 11/4/22, 6:39 PM

    That's crazy, gonna die without Zlibrary
  • by drummer on 11/4/22, 3:15 PM

    They'll be back soon. No stopping this.
  • by BazookaMusic on 11/4/22, 7:52 AM

    Another success for agent Danger and USPIS.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMgQhOe6N6U

  • by weberdev on 11/4/22, 3:22 PM

    What happened ?

    Why about ex presidents obama and clinton ?

  • by hnburnsy on 11/4/22, 2:03 PM

    Back to Usenet and alt.binaries.e-book!
  • by vicociv on 11/4/22, 9:22 AM

    upload ebooks and metadata to Arweave, index data with the Graph.
  • by ijkxyz on 11/4/22, 5:36 AM

    oh no, i use z library to make list of books I want to read.
  • by maya12321 on 11/6/22, 5:20 AM

    como accedo a esto de thor?
  • by hadnayeer on 11/4/22, 2:39 AM

    What the correct url?
  • by weberdev on 11/4/22, 3:21 PM

    what happened
  • by terrycody on 11/4/22, 4:34 AM

    God, so its over?
  • by czhu12 on 11/4/22, 5:02 AM

    The mental gymnastics happening in this thread to justify pirating books is pretty disappointing.

    Especially on HN, where I think a lot of our livelihoods depend on writing and charging for closed source code that can technically be infinitely distributed.

    How many of us would be happy to open source all our code, provide easy ways for people to download and deploy, and then leave a PayPal link in the footer asking for donations? Why should authors be any different?

  • by jrm4 on 11/4/22, 2:49 AM

    As a lawyer, I can't recommend it, but I absolutely cannot discern any moral difference whatsoever between reading a library book for free and purchasing it later if I like it, and doing the same first thing by downloading the ebook from somewhere "unapproved." It's all very silly.
  • by mlatu on 11/4/22, 1:10 PM

    jesus christ... i thought this was about zlib!
  • by dools on 11/4/22, 3:52 AM

    Agent Jack Danger on the case (it’s pronounced Donger)
  • by marycare_70 on 11/4/22, 7:06 AM

    Cosa succede a z-library? Posso fare qualcosa per aiutare il progetto? Spero che presto possa tornare funzionante
  • by marycare_70 on 11/4/22, 7:08 AM

    Buongiorno, Z-library non sta funzionando in Italia. Posso fare qualcosa per aiutare il progetto? Spero che presto possa tornare a funzionare.

    Grazie

  • by midislack on 11/4/22, 2:59 AM

    Doesn't really matter, you can still use TOR or IPFS or i2p. Like with KiwiFarms.