by Curzel on 7/29/22, 8:18 AM with 162 comments
Since 2020 I disabled notifications completely on every device I own.
I'm not more focused, nor more productive, but, at least, they stopped popping up in the corner of the screen.
This included browser-based notifications, which not only are the most annoying kind, as they pop up virtually on every website, but I also have to regularly disable them on phones of friends and family, as they come and ask me to "remove the notifications virus"...
I can understand IM, email, calendar, even order tracking push notifications. But do you really use ANY other notifications?
Do you use ANY notifications in places other than your phone?
by ryandrake on 7/29/22, 9:59 AM
I go home and visit my parents and their devices are beeping and buzzing and vibrating every 5 seconds or so. It's like living on the Las Vegas strip. I see people out in restaurants together constantly picking up their phone over and over because it's dinging at them. I can't even imagine myself living like that anymore.
by MacsHeadroom on 7/29/22, 9:55 AM
I'm highly technically competent. When I look at my older parents' phones and see the notification hell they're dealing with, I wonder how anyone ever thought notifications were a good idea?!
Back when notifications meant email, IM, and updates they were fine. Now everything wants to grab your attention. So now none of them get my attention, not even calls or text messages.
by ojkelly on 7/29/22, 11:27 AM
It’s an accessibility (as in a11y) thing. Notifications are a tool that some of us depend on, and some of us will never need.
Like many people with ADHD I forgot stuff. Important things, non-important things. For so many different reasons, some reasonable other just frustrating.
So when I know now I need to do something in the future, say in 3 hours (like take the clothes out of the washing machine), I’m gonna set a timer. Otherwise you could place a solid bet I’ll forget.
It goes for other things too. App notifications are a critical part of my ability to stay on top of things.
Snoozing is one of the most consequential features to have been added. I used google inbox for this feature alone (then de-googled after they shut it down).
I use Slack’s remind me more than twice a day.
The ability for a different system to act as both time based memory, and an external prompt that I need to look at something takes a huge cognitive load of me.
But, this only works with apps that respect notifications. Those apps (looking at you Uber), that push marketing notifications down the same channel as the critical transactional ones are nothing but enraging.
I’m sure they think it’s good for their numbers, but it breeds a discontent with the brand. Because you’ve taken a communication channel I depend on and made it unreliable. If I can’t know for sure that an Uber notification is time sensitive, I’m going to mute them and stop using the app. But for Uber it’s worse, I’ve learnt they are time sensitive (car is arriving), and when I’ve gotten the marketing notification out of the blue, I’m not in a mood to receive it because I’m wondering why I have an Uber booking, because that’s what I would expect from prior usage.
I do take a fully opt in approach to notifications and I think everyone should. If you’re getting interrupted by a notification it has to be more important than what your currently doing. If not, it’s going to be a negative experience.
So, notifications. They’re a powerful accessibility tool. Which means we’re all gonna configure them differently, and it means abuses the trust of uses who’ve given you permission to interrupt them is something you should treat as a liability not an acceptable cost of pumping your numbers.
by flkiwi on 7/29/22, 3:37 PM
by kdtsh on 7/29/22, 9:19 AM
On my phone I only have Do Not Disturb enabled when I really don’t want to be disturbed, but otherwise I only allow audio alerts for phone calls; everything else either pops up on my Lock Screen quietly, gets a badge that I can sort out later, or doesn’t matter enough for me to spend any time on unless I open the app.
by jzellis on 7/29/22, 10:15 AM
by thenerdhead on 7/29/22, 3:45 PM
https://jondouglas.dev/balance-your-digital-well-being/
https://jondouglas.dev/focus-is-a-superpower/
https://jondouglas.dev/fast-brain-slow-mind/
I try to replace my artificial notifications with natural/organic notifications where possible. The only notifications on my phone that I allow are phone calls/texts from certain numbers. I don't want to constantly be in a state of "alertness". I seek serenity from digital devices on a daily basis.
by ghusto on 7/29/22, 12:31 PM
"But what if I need you for something important?!"
There's this thing called a phone
"Well, it's not _that_ important ... I guess"
Amazing how rationality has time to settle in when we stop being impulsive.
by Brajeshwar on 7/29/22, 9:20 AM
1. https://brajeshwar.com/2014/missing-step-productivity-activi...
by nemacol on 7/29/22, 10:11 AM
Anyway, I disabled everywhere except calendar alerts, alarm clock app, and a "favorites" list that is exempt from DnD in my phone.
My preference is for technology to be a tool that I use when I want. It is here for me not the other way around.
by bambax on 7/29/22, 9:30 AM
On my desktop I have zero notifications.
It's been that way for years, it's perfect.
I'm not a first responder. All things can wait.
by ubercow13 on 7/29/22, 9:45 AM
by Veen on 7/29/22, 9:09 AM
I turn off notifications for most apps, put non-urgent ones in the summary, and leave only a few to be delivered immediately ( e.g. iMessages from VIP contacts). Then I glance through the summary when it arrives after work and deal with anything that needs a response.
Also, I turn off all browser notifications. I never need them.
by NikolaNovak on 7/29/22, 11:12 AM
No notifications on desktop, ever <shudder>.
Google hangouts and ams messenger can show me pull down "notifications" (message preview) on the phone.
That's not to say I'm inaccessible - I have not missed a call or important message yet. But app notifications have negative use value for me.
by atemerev on 7/29/22, 9:47 AM
But I don’t know anyone who doesn’t switch off most of notifications.
by gumby on 7/29/22, 11:38 AM
I enable certain IM senders (kids, partner) and slack (certain channels only). I have an app that reminds me to take my meds through the day. Nothing else.
There are task-specific notifications I would like to enable (e.g. my car is arriving) but when you enable notifications for those apps, the apps spam me at other times. So polling it is.
I never enabled browser notifications.
by sys_64738 on 7/29/22, 11:46 AM
by lamontcg on 7/29/22, 5:20 PM
If you think you desperately need to be ADHD constantly helping people out immediately with every request they have and this is the way to get forward in your career, you might want to reconsider that. You turn into sort of the helpdesk guy. You can still be the person that does all the extraordinarily hard problems that nobody else can solve, and deliver on the big features, without being the person who is there for instantly answering questions 24/7. If you open yourself up to being ADHD constantly you'll probably never get anything done through being interrupted constantly and you may find yourself stuck at a lower technical level than you want to progress to. Although if you want a management job this is probably the path you want to take.
by zevon on 7/29/22, 11:59 AM
My personal phone is a device with GrapheneOS (no Play Store and no Play services, so not even the temptation to install attention grabbing crap - not that I even have social media accounts anymore). It is used mostly for audiobooks, music, navigation, phone calls, as a device for notetaking, information gathering / referencing - and to have a backup of my most important data near me at all times. The only app I allow notifications on this device for is the one messenger I have installed - which I only use to chat with my partner, a group chat with some of my oldest friends and the very occasinal message to other contacts (almost exclusively to coordinate some real-world activity). At the beginning of my work day, I usually chuck the personal phone in my backpack and only remember to take it out in the evening when I usually have a call with my partner - or when I'd like to listen to some music during a break. If there is an emergency, my partner, my parents, etc. know to call me at work.
My work phone is a bit different. I have it with me at all times when I'm working and have notifications enabled for Matrix/Element (which we use as our team messenger) and for the calendar. Not E-Mail, though. I check that when I'm good and ready.
My partner has a permanent exception to Do Not Disturb mode on both my phones.
On my computers, it's Do Not Disturb / disable notifications all the way. If I want to be informed about stuff, I'll keep the respective app open. During a normal work day, for example, I have Element, Calendar and E-Mail open on a second monitor for glanceability - and I even close those apps depending on the kind of work I'm doing.
Edit: I forgot: I also have my government's disaster warning app installed on my phones and it's allowed notifications - for obvious reasons.
by jasomill on 7/29/22, 3:41 PM
2. Calendar reminders (banners only, Mac and iPhone).
3. A bespoke "hello world" iOS app I threw together and installed to enable ad hoc notifications to myself from anywhere via a similarly trivial Web API (banners and sounds, iPhone only).
4. LaunchControl[1] on the Mac has a neat feature that sends a notification whenever a launchd item is added or removed. This is nice to know, and generally only triggers when apps are installed or updated, and on app launch and quit for a few apps like VMware Fusion that only keep their related launchd items loaded while running (banners only, Mac only).
Everything else gets turned off with extreme prejudice.
by ndepoel on 7/29/22, 10:21 AM
"Do you want to receive distractions from this app?"
Reads very differently and makes the correct answer much more obvious in pretty much every situation. No, no, no and no.
by juanca on 7/29/22, 10:35 AM
Maybe the only downside is checking my calendar, email, IM at least once a day instead of letting it inform me of events.
by oshirisuki on 7/29/22, 8:43 PM
by dvfjsdhgfv on 7/29/22, 9:38 AM
The only notifications I'm using are for phone calls from selected contacts, mainly my family.
by penguin_booze on 7/29/22, 5:00 PM
by safety1st on 7/29/22, 11:24 AM
I have accepted that if I want to veg out and be aimless and distracted (which occasionally is ok) I should have my phone out near me. If I don't, physical distance, the more the better.
by throwaway22032 on 7/29/22, 9:11 AM
by zenwell on 7/29/22, 4:34 PM
I'm building a wellness mobile app and I make use of mobile notifications for certain reminders.
I am building the app using things that worked for me, and one of those things was notification reminders. I don't think I've ever set up YouTube bell, and I'm usually Do Not Disturb mode. Most of the time, I "miss" my reminders but when I pull down from the top I see what I missed and would act upon them.
One of the challenges for me is that I tend to sometimes get too focused (or completely side-tracked sometimes) and during these times I miss my self-care time.
by hackernewds on 7/29/22, 10:10 AM
* urgent and relevant: enabled, show me this now. examples are: IM and phone calls and earthquake monitors * urgent and non-relevant: "sale ends in 5 mins!!" * non-urgent but relevant: "your package has been delivered to your mailbox". Use an app like Daywise to BATCH these notifications to arrive at X hour intervals, so you're only checking 24/x times a day * non-urgent non-relevant: disable all these
by t6jvcereio on 7/29/22, 11:12 AM
First I thought we were talking about silent notifications, like a lock screen display or a display LED etc. But if that's what we're talking about, I don't understand why people here are so annoyed by notifications. My brain filters silent notifications as well as it filters ads - I don't even see them any more.
The only notifications that my brain doesn't filter are the ones with sound, and only one app in my phone can produce sound, which is the alarm.
by Markoff on 7/29/22, 9:55 AM
Does this mean you have to open calendar, email and IM app all the time to find out there is nothing new? Seems like waste of time/energy to not use notification just to show some statement.
I have 24/7 DND mode with notifications only on my watch with email, calendar and IM (and on IM i mute people who bother me too much). Well also SMS, but I'm receiving only verification codes there rarely.
by VyseofArcadia on 7/29/22, 3:00 PM
I've got every other notification quashed. Calls, IMs from close friends and family, that's all I get on my personal devices. If only I could dial down Slack on my work machine.
by jzellis on 7/29/22, 10:12 AM
First thing I do whenever I'm forced to use Slack or anything like it is to disable notifications on anything but direct messages or mentions.
My time is more valuable to me than other people's desire to take it up, especially for anything that isn't urgent.
by knorker on 7/29/22, 11:29 AM
If the only way to get a timely response would be to call, then she'd he to call. And i would have to pick up. And maybe she's in a meeting.
Maybe she's presenting something in a meeting and asking me to check if there's any problem with our wifi. She can't call me; she's busy.
But things like YouTube notifications, or "ring the little bell" calls to action. No... Just... Why in the fuck would i want to do that?
by kradeelav on 7/29/22, 5:50 PM
Cannot imagine living with more stimulation ... already feel like i have too much!
by thekingofrome on 7/30/22, 6:35 AM
I always hated pop up notifications and my phone buzzing or making noise, it feels so intrusive as well as being distracting
by RGamma on 7/29/22, 3:59 PM
The rest I consider spam. And notification spam is the number one issue I see with devices I manage for relatives, etc ("how do I turn this off, I don't know where that comes from, blabla"), which is an improvement over the PC era with its much more horrible phenomena.
by brainwipe on 7/29/22, 10:10 AM
I can then turn it off, have all the cached notifications appear, deal with them and then switch on Do Not Disturb again.
by jasonpeacock on 7/29/22, 3:40 PM
Every time you see 'notifications', replace with the word 'interruptions'.
It really puts it into perspective.I have notifications enabled only for a select few people (family), everything is silenced. If you need me, leave a voicemail or text, and I'll see it when I next check for it.
Granted, I still check fairly often, but it's when I want to check.
by ryanmercer on 7/29/22, 10:50 AM
Unless I'm actively texting someone, that might me a dozen notifications a day.
by rasse on 7/29/22, 3:46 PM
For me, this setup allows for a good balance of instantly knowing what's up when checking the phone but without being disturbed.
by wruza on 7/29/22, 8:38 AM
Btw, what are notification places other than my phone? A desktop/browser? Always off for everything.
by perryizgr8 on 7/30/22, 9:48 AM
by rmetzler on 7/29/22, 10:01 AM
by seba_dos1 on 7/29/22, 9:40 AM
by zppln on 7/29/22, 3:07 PM
by chatmasta on 8/1/22, 12:47 PM
Related: “inbox zero” is a trap. Why would you surrender your willpower to anyone who can reach your inbox?
by subliminalpanda on 7/29/22, 10:11 AM
I only noticed that i had notifications turned on for Uber, and was notification spammed by them for some sort of promotion - disabled immediately.
by tarunmuvvala on 8/1/22, 5:04 AM
I am now limiting time on Youtube, twitter and other limitless scrolling site.
We need a review system for this.
I check how many times I unlock my phone in a day and it ranges from 80-120.I wish to reduce this and do more deep work.
by circlingthesun on 7/29/22, 10:21 AM
by 18dhaFijHH728 on 7/29/22, 9:54 AM
by acutesoftware on 7/29/22, 9:31 AM
Though I do have a good habit of checking messages and emails every hour, so it isn't that bad for others. (Desktop is different, teams / slack is on all the time with popups).
by sys_64738 on 7/29/22, 11:58 AM
by tandav on 7/29/22, 10:33 AM
by O__________O on 7/29/22, 10:54 AM
>> Why I'm unreachable and maybe you should be too
by 4ad on 7/29/22, 9:40 AM
Only exception is for phone, some IM (not all), and some mail.
by DarthNebo on 7/29/22, 10:58 AM
by helij on 7/29/22, 11:15 AM
by elzbardico on 7/29/22, 10:06 AM
by f0e4c2f7 on 7/29/22, 12:27 PM
Had a few other similar suggestions I use to this day.
by the_gipsy on 7/29/22, 10:13 AM
by freedude on 7/29/22, 8:38 PM
A tool is used when I need it.
A trap won't let go of me.
by the_other on 7/29/22, 9:38 AM
There's a lot of "I turn most of them off" here. In parallel, notifications are regularly talked about as a major sticking point around web vs native apps (because Apple). If we, here, aren't using them, why are we building customer-facing tools around them?
by Angostura on 7/29/22, 12:31 PM
Hmmm.
by psyclobe on 7/30/22, 5:33 AM