by chaibiker on 6/30/22, 5:58 PM with 42 comments
by avgDev on 6/30/22, 7:18 PM
"Proven by Science Recent study results prove that Movably is a highly effective solution. All participants reported no back discomfort. Using Movably outperformed standing and ergonomic chairs."
Link to study? Highly effective solution to what? Back pain? Leg pain? Participants reported no back discomfort vs control who did report back discomfort using other chairs or standing?
Lack of arm support.
There is an image of a male sitting on the chair. The position IS NOT ERGONOMIC AT ALL, here are the issues:
-He is forced to look down, this will result in neck pain.
-The monitor should be at eye level or just below it about arm length away.
-His arms are pressing against the desk and hands are above the elbows.
This all very basic computer work ergonomics. All this work on this product and 0 actual science on the page about ergonomics.
There is a claim, "Sitting is the new smoking".....I mean you are out of your mind.
From Mayo clinic, "Any extended sitting — such as at a desk, behind a wheel or in front of a screen — can be harmful. An analysis of 13 studies of sitting time and activity levels found that those who sat for more than eight hours a day with no physical activity had a risk of dying similar to the risks of dying posed by obesity and smoking. However, unlike some other studies, this analysis of data from more than 1 million people found that 60 to 75 minutes of moderately intense physical activity a day countered the effects of too much sitting. Another study found that sitting time contributed little to mortality for people who were most active."
Link to source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/ex...
The website stinks of hyper marketing to sell an overpriced product.
EDIT: The only positive comments here so far are from users with 2 hour old accounts. OP decides to respond to POSITIVE comments from the new account but not to most upvoted negative comment. Yikes.
by weego on 6/30/22, 7:50 PM
Varier chairs (various) and the move stool HAG Capisco range Muvman stool
Hell, you can buy a saddle seat designed to augment any office desk for $100 that will also be 'backed by studies'
And failing that a simple balance ball with give you so much.
This is an office Peloton for people desperate to burn through their startup capital.
by binbag on 6/30/22, 8:45 PM
What? So of the group, who all had blood clots, a load of them sat more than the others? I'm struggling to draw a firm conclusion from that. What are you comparing that ratio to? If you picked a group of 100 people at random and found out how long they sat for, do you think it is likely or unlikely that 80% of the group sat more than the other 20%? If I bought 1,000 apples, and their size had a normal distribution, I could cut that distribution whether I want and thereby show that 80% of them are larger than the remaining 20%. I could say it and I would be right, but I've demonstrated nothing significant.
by chaibiker on 6/30/22, 5:59 PM
I am one of the founders at https://www.movably.com/. If you work at a desk for extended periods you may have heard the call to “move more” or that "the best posture is your next posture". The problem is we also have to get our work done. That’s what we are solving with our smart interactive chair.
Research shows that moving more often is one of the most effective ways to prevent the health problems caused by sitting. So we set out to create a way to incorporate healthy frequent movement that is easy to adopt without interrupting your work or flow.
Here is a short video to give you an idea https://youtu.be/d0D3-YBj7Zo. Test users have loved it, they usually have the “aha” moment within the first day no longer feeling sore from sitting. We also ran a formal research study with University of Waterloo (who work on chairs/sitting a lot) testing with people who show early signs of discomfort in sitting and standing with really good results- all the participants reported no pain when using Movably when compared to standing or sitting in a high end ergonomic chair. That will be published soon as one of the first times a chair was able to help prevent back pain.
Would love to get your feedback and questions!
Thank you, Mark
by symlinkk on 6/30/22, 6:59 PM
by jascii on 6/30/22, 8:35 PM
Not only good for your body, but you'll likely get back to the problem you're working on with a fresh perspective and end up more productive in the long run...
by jzellis on 6/30/22, 8:42 PM
I now walk at least an hour every day if I can and three hour extended rambles on weekends, and I'm losing weight, in less pain, my head is clearer and I'm happier. It sounds stupid, maybe, but it's the truth.
If I had the money to blow on this chair, I'd buy an improved ebike with better range and ride that thing instead.
by latenightcoding on 6/30/22, 7:59 PM
by seydor on 6/30/22, 7:01 PM
by mronetwo on 6/30/22, 6:46 PM
Looks interesting. Definitely too expensive for my personal use. I hope I'll get to test it one day. Also, there are pictures on the website of people having quite non ergonomic setups. I know the focus is the chair but it's a weird contrast of a high tech ergonomic solution next to an obvious, bad work setup choices (example being the slightly slouched man, who looks at the screen of his laptop).
by jdlyga on 6/30/22, 7:59 PM
by sixQuarks on 6/30/22, 7:33 PM
I used to have back and wrist issues, tried standing desk, it definitely helped, but the sitting position on the floor is so much better. No back or wrist issues
by theelous3 on 6/30/22, 9:02 PM
Epic vaporware. Juicero of chairs.
by pbackup12345 on 6/30/22, 7:02 PM
by thecrumb on 6/30/22, 8:25 PM
by avgcorrection on 6/30/22, 7:28 PM
(Warning: rant incoming)
It’s interesting that this “sitting is [literally] the new smoking” study-shows movement has shown how limited ergonomic tools are. Maybe some ergonomic tools are just a grift to paper over the inherent defiencies of office work.[1] Think about it:
1. People get health problems from working in an office
2. Ergo company steps in to let the managers buy ergonomic equipment
3. Ergo company makes a pretty penny
4. The company behind the office just have to spend a little more money on office equipment rather than rethink the whole structure of their work environment. (Does it work? Well, the important thing is that they made an effort)
5. Win-win
So anyway. How come the bodies of (one of) the smartest species on Earth are so fragile that it can’t deal with full-time thinking-work?[2] And how can we ever make up for it when we are contractually obligated to do keyboard-clacking/mouse-clicking/meeting-sitting for eight hours a day?
1. Better remember to look at a far-away object every twenty minutes in order to combat screen/reading-induced myopia
2. Try to (as often as possible) vary your positions without interrupting your own concentration on your task (how?)
3. Better remember to schedule some movement ritual in order to not be the new “smoker”
4. Better try to not look like a try-hard idiot as you do all your anti-sedentary/anti-myopia exercises in the middle of your open office which even has (for insult-to-injury) glass walls separating it from the common hallway
5. Honestly, even with all the fidgeting and practicing the-best-positions-is-the-next-one at work, you will have to dedicate a lot of time off-work for that old school rigorous exercise (remember the eighties when that was all it took? Supposedly)
One problem might be that companies are stupid (see: open office). But it seems more fundamental than that. How are you even supposed to do knowledge work without committing sins of sedentary?
1. Maybe a small treadmill? Could work for reading tasks or meetings. But what about your gait when you are typing and using the mouse? I’ve heard that that gets awkward
2. Memorize the codebase and apply changes in your mind while you go for an outdoor hike? What kind of outdoorsy savant could pull that off?
[1] Key word “some”. I know that some people swear by certain ergo alternatives.
[2] I know, I know. There is no “why” to evolution. We just evolved in a completely different environment. Still makes me upset though.
by FredPret on 6/30/22, 8:03 PM
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by yahur on 6/30/22, 7:20 PM