by ziadbc on 10/14/11, 3:56 AM with 7 comments
by lispm on 10/14/11, 10:47 AM
World improvement? While much of the hacker projects were financed by the military - especially the defense advanced research projects agency. The software from MIT found its way into missile guiding systems, battle management systems, logistics for the military and a lot more. Much of the show was paid for by the military. ARPA was renamed to DARPA to make sure the money receivers understand that 'defense' was not optional.
With Lisp for example, the Common Lisp standard was paid for the military to be able to have a common language for the military AI software. Most of the early manufactured Lisp Machines went directly into the SDI project, the rest then to the Strategic Computing project. TI got money to manufacture their own machines with an MIT license of the software. For example the 'compact Lisp Machine' got a new chip financed by the military - to be used in planes, guided missiles, etc.
by Iv on 10/14/11, 8:19 AM
by tmcb on 10/14/11, 4:12 AM
It is obviously an advance if they're at least being discussed, but there's a long road until these ideals come true. And as the author said, we're beginning to inherit the responsibility.
by oscarleung on 10/14/11, 4:54 AM
by spodek on 10/14/11, 12:08 PM
"World improvement" sounds noble, but every sane person believes they are making the world a better place -- whether dictators, telemarketers, soldiers, marketers of sugary beverages to children, or anyone. I guarantee not a single one of them, or anyone else, believes they are making the world a better place.
You might believe they are making the world worse, but then you're evaluating them by your standards. Since they have different standards, they'll view you as making the world worse too since you don't live up to their standards.
Personally I find the whole concept of making the world a better place or "world improvement" provincial and judgmental. Provincial because it assumes your standards apply to others (maybe self-important would be a more appropriate term). Judgmental because you are judging yourself and others -- "better" and "improvement" means more good, which judges.
Most insidiously, because the view makes you feel right, as opposed to humble, it motivates you to act instead of soliciting others' feedback. That is, it motivates you toward self-righteousness.
As an alternative, I would propose "do what you think is right" and "respect others". These two goals contradict each other and lead to internal conflict, but so does interacting with people.
Anyway, I blogged about this concept once at greater length than this post in case anyone wants to read more -- http://joshuaspodek.com/whats-wrong-making-world-place
by Mithrandir on 10/14/11, 5:19 AM
by InclinedPlane on 10/14/11, 5:01 AM