by loganmarchione on 4/11/22, 7:15 PM with 728 comments
by ChicagoBoy11 on 4/11/22, 7:35 PM
Having gone through the same thing myself several years ago, the UI aspect of it is something that I'd be curious to see how it develops for the author. I think it is not uncommon for Windows folk to find the windowing experience on macs rather painful, at least at first. However, after a while, it sort of "made sense" to me, if that makes any sense at all. There are some clear UX philosophies that are very different, and the initial transition can only be pretty jarring, but I'm curious what the author would say about it after a month or two.
Also, fwiw, I think most power Mac users also marshal the use of some other programs to help along with some of that (or at least to tailor it more closely to what they want the experience to be). Rectangle is one of the first installs on any Mac I put my hands on... makes window management so much more pleasant!
by geoffmanning on 4/12/22, 2:08 AM
I'm a month in now and i have to say that attitude is everything when it comes to learning something new, and, especially when you know something "kind of like this", you have to be very careful not to let your unmet expectations of something similar sour the experience.
When i started with Windows as a kid i didn't have a "choice" in the matter, it's just what we had, and i had to learn all those tricks and tips along the way to improve my user experience. If i used that to temper the curve of getting a good user experience from my Mac i'd have to say that Mac got it closer to the target by a magnitude.
So, when you don't get the experience you need, instead of defaulting to "this is dumb", ask yourself why they did it this way, and why you expect it that way, and then if you still want it that way after considering a new perspective, chances are there's an app for that.
Stay curious, my friends.
by ysleepy on 4/11/22, 8:15 PM
* Put the Dock left or right, vertical space is precious (trust me, do it for a week and then decide)
* Setup Hot-Corners (Settings -> Mission Control -> Hot Corners)
- Upper-Right Corner as Mission Control (Must be upper right so spaces are immediately shown)
- Lower-Left Corner as Application Windows
- just fling your mouse curser into the corner (use std. gestures on the trackpad)
This makes window management a lot better.* Maximise Windows by double clicking the Window title bar.
* Disable auto-{correction, capitalize, etc}, smart-quotes under Keyboard settings (if you want)
* Learn about the screenshot shortcuts CMD+shift+{3,4}, 3: full screen, 4: select area or switch to window select with hitting space bar once.
* Learn about CMD+space for launching apps
* Set Key-Repeat to fast and shorten the delay
* Disable spotlight for everything except what you want to use it for.
* Enable File-Vault
* Disable "Wake for Network Access" under Energy
* Enable the ssh server under Sharing "Remote Login" (If you want)
* Disable the visual/audible bell in the Terminal profile.
* Install MacPorts/Homebew
And one thing to internalize is that Apple is a little authoritarian about some UX aspects.
For example the snapping and window thing... Apple has a thing with continuos freedom opposed to the discretisation one is used to. I've come around to that view as well actually, free your mind, nature is not a stepped slider.
Cool Utilities:
MenuMeters with a CPU usage graph. this allows you to see if something is killing your battery.
MonitorControl (on github) to set brightness of external monitors.
LittleSnitch ($$) for fellow paranoid control freaks
IINA (github) best video player
UTM for VMs (free on github) paid options are good too
MacPass for KeePass databases
Hope it helps.
by teilo on 4/11/22, 7:39 PM
Most of these "rants" really just amount to: "this different OS doesn't work exactly the same way as the OS I am used to." That's why 3rd party utilities exist to give you the functionality you wish to have. That formula cuts both ways.
by traceroute66 on 4/11/22, 7:47 PM
The author makes a big deal that you have to do Command+Tab to switch applications, and then Command+` to cycle between windows in that application. Well, frankly I think thats the better way, I'll give you an example:
Let's say (as you do) you have a dozen browser windows open (maybe in more than one browser) ... do you REALLY want to sit there hitting Command+Tab dozens of times ? No. Its quicker to switch to the desired app and then cycle within the app. That way you don't cycle through the browser when you don't need to.
Finally there are some, frankly bizarre, comments in the blog post, such as:
> However, that keyboard doesn’t have the Option (⌥) or Command (⌘) keys like on my Macbook.
Well, yeah, its not Apple's problem if you choose to use a PC keyboard with your Mac. Most people would either use the built-in Mac keyboard or buy an external one (third-party Mac keyboards are available from the usual suspects if you don't fancy an Apple one).
I gave up reading the blog post around that point ("The Undecided" header to be precise).
by etempleton on 4/12/22, 2:53 AM
At the same time, I think Apple is currently doing some of their best most sensible hardware design and their quality control has only gotten better.
Despite my misgivings about Mac OS I still choose a Mac for work because I need a laptop and I want a quality machine, but I really hope Apple take a long hard look at MacOS and devotes some resources to pushing desktop operating systems forward again.
by mastazi on 4/12/22, 4:04 AM
in MacOS there is no unified way to get to the beginning or end of a line. In Linux and Windows this is done with the Home and End keys. In Mac, there are some shortcuts but they are not universal, what works in terminal may not work in a browser textarea and so on. Some programs interpret the same shortcut as "go to the very end of the text (as in a PgDown key) but that same shortcut, in another program, might go to the end of the line (like the End key).
Please let me know if I'm missing something! Every time I make a web search about this topic, I end up in various pages like this one[1] with shortcuts that don't work for me for the reasons explained above.
EDIT: I found out that there are some Mac keyboards with the Home and End keys. So it seems that this is not an OS issue but, I guess, a MacBook issue (I've only ever used MacBooks and always without external keyboard).
by pschastain on 4/12/22, 1:13 AM
The UI is inconsistent, esp. wrt the menu bar. Keyboard shortcuts are inconsistent across different apps. macOS remembers window positions, GNOME doesn't. macOS can use different backgrounds for different monitors, GNOME can't. The GNOME Panel is a poor substitute for the macOS Dock (which itself is severely limited) i.e. doesn't offer any visual cue that an app is launching. I could go on.
OSes are a tool. Use what works best for you.
by dfxm12 on 4/11/22, 7:59 PM
Apple products are supposed to be revered the world over as the pinnacle of design, used by artists, engineers, professionals, and creators.
Is this still really the case? Most of what I hear nowadays is Apple's reputation is that their products are luxury status symbols rather than a tool for creative types, outside of maybe the camera on the iPhone. 10 years ago, you might have seen the coffee shop filled with macbooks, but that's not the case today. What artist is going to afford a $1900 monitor that can only be height adjusted with a $400 upgrade?
by uuyi on 4/11/22, 7:47 PM
When you’re used to something else the change hurts. I have found it far better to not bring your mental baggage with you and meet the new platform as its level rather than try and make it the same as the old one.
I have gone MOS > RiscOS > WinNT -> Solaris -> Linux -> Win7 -> macOS and it hurt every time.
by kemayo on 4/11/22, 8:00 PM
I'll explain: if you have a lot of windows open, I think it's nice to silo them. When I have ten Firefox windows and six Sublime windows and three iTerm windows, and a few other random applications, it's generally easier to go first to the app I want and then find the window inside it, rather than always having to shuffle through 19 different windows at the top-level.
This is probably a matter of personal preference and habit, and you can make a good case for either behavior. I just don't think macOS' behavior is obviously worse... only different.
by macrael on 4/11/22, 8:04 PM
I've actually started braking more websites out into their own fluid.app so that I can cmd-tab to them specifically. Jira, Github, Gmail (well, when I used gmail) all get their own app so I don't have to go hunting for that single tab in my browser, making my browser window management that much easier.
If you're interested in that, I pair fluid.app with choosy so that links open in the correct fluid browser.
by moonchrome on 4/11/22, 8:32 PM
With that said I would say MacOS grows on you. On my 34 inch screen using snapping is just not practical - I just move windows around and have plenty of visual space and can quickly move my head to move attention to a different window, find other windows through overlaps - I prefer this to tabbing - and this is when working on my Windows desktop.
Returning to Windows after not regularly using it for last 3 years it's sad to see that the UI has regressed with Windows 11. For example windows had system calendar app that would connect to the system calendar in the bottom right and show event previews for the day and you could click on the day and get day summaries, sort of like Itsycal but built in. They removed this in Windows 11.
I think MacOS is strictly better for most of my use cases :
- The new right click UI is clunky and obviously touch optimized, most of the OS is going this way and it's shit for desktop usability
- Dark mode support is hit-and-miss, much better in MacOS
- PowerToys Run doesn't work reliably at all compared to Mac CMD + Space which works without a hiccup
- chocolatey is garbage compared to homebrew
Where Windows beats MacOS for me :
- Docker performance is much much better
- WSL/linux integration is fairly nice (using OpenSuSe rolling release to get relevant software, Ubuntu LTS they provide is ancient)
by nerdjon on 4/11/22, 7:56 PM
I constantly find myself frustrated by Windows because I am just used to how Mac operates. I have been using it as my primary compute device since Lion.
However one of the things that I find interesting from the Window management point that I don't see mentioned, touchpad gestures. I cannot use Mac without gestures, even when I am using my laptop as a desktop I use the Magic Trackpad. The few times I have tried to use a mouse... it just feels wrong. I would highly recommend taking a look at this and looking at the window management from this prospective. Because of these gestures I never think I need to snap things because switching windows is a quick swipe and and a click. Then all the other gestures, hot corners, etc.
That being said, I find the same issue with my partner. He has never used a Mac (has an iPhone though) but sometimes he needs to do something quick so grabs my laptop. It is fascinating watching him struggle with the trackpad and other basics that to me I don't even think about anymore.
by CSMastermind on 4/11/22, 11:49 PM
I'll say that I've used Windows and macOS both personally and professionally for two decades now (longer for Windows). I'd consider myself a power user in both OSes, I know the keyboard shortcuts, I know the OS settings somewhat in depth, and I've used a lot of the common tools to extend each OS.
My experience is that Windows has far better UX for pretty most end users.
I have 4 monitors connected to my Windows computer. I just plugged them in and it worked. I've burned hours fighting with external monitors on macOS. Is it even possible to have 4 external monitors? Actually you can extend this to all sorts of peripherals.
Windows explorer feels way more productive than finder. It still bothers me that I can't cut and paste folders by default.
I revert to the command line way more on macOS than I do on Windows. That's a skill that your average user isn't going to have.
I found my old Oregon Trail 3 CD two months ago and decided to play it. I had to navigate a few context menus but this 1997 game booted right up on Windows, how many hoops do you think I'd have to jump through to run a Mac OS 8 application on my MacBook Pro?
And there's a bunch of other examples I could give. There's a lot of reasons people like Apple products and if the interface works for you, great! But I don't think it's fair to dismiss critiques as ignorance of lack of ability.
by lbrito on 4/11/22, 7:49 PM
Gosh, this is exactly how I felt in a similar situation. Really hit the nail on the head.
I've used Linux for a long time, and for a while I was kindly forced to use a Mac (got a Linux laptop last week). It was a painful experience that took a heavy toll on my productivity.
My impression is that Mac has so many idiossincrasies that fans just assume are "intuitive" while they're really not - they've just been used to it for a long time. Personally I hated, hated the usability. Can't stress it enough, it absolutely sucked. Never again!
Also the benefits compared to non-Macs are diminishing over time. You can get great hardware and battery life with system76 for instance.
by xisthesqrtof9 on 4/11/22, 8:00 PM
Inspired by Mitchell Hashimoto's VMWare setup[0]. I setup my own computer in such a way, I now have the best of both worlds. Developing on a linux machine, where I can control everything if I wanted (down to the OS) and the ease of Notes/iMessages whenever I need it.
Window management is a pita because of internal APIs and the fact that Apple doesn't cater to people that actually care about these tools. Check out Yabai[1] which btw requires you to disable SIP (System Integrity Protection) if you want to use its full potential.
Instead you can run NixOS and choose your favourite window/tiling manager (i3).
Package manager: I still run Nix but I am not that happy with it. Either I need to spend some more time or look for an alternative. One of the problems is the ability to easily pin older versions.
[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubDMLoWz76U&t=359s&ab_channe... [1] - https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai
by Xevi on 4/12/22, 8:27 AM
I switched to a Mac Mini M1 in December and it has been a complete pain in the ass. First of all, to even be able to use it I had to switch out my monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers because Apple didn't like them. And then I had to buy an extra dock to get more ports. On top of that I've also had to install a bunch of third party software to get basic functionality like window snapping (Moom), and a functioning scroll wheel and the ability to turn off mouse acceleration (SteerMouse). And don't get me started on the absolute bonkers ways you toggle between applications, or the fact that you need to click TWICE on a window when switching between windows, if you want to type something in it. My desk is absolutely cluttered with application windows, because minimizing them apparently makes Mac treat them as if you never want to see them again, which messes with my voice control software. Oh, and why is there no delete button? And why do I need to be so precise when clicking on desktop icons, instead of just having a bounding box around them? Who thought that was a good idea? And while we're on desktop icons, why on earth aren't they sorted and fixed to a grid by default? Does anyone like unorganized items in folders?? Another thing that annoys me is pop-up windows with no freaking option to close them other than clicking "done" or whatever. What if I don't want to apply any of the changes I've made? Why can't I just cancel?? I could go on and on about UI inconsistencies and various bugs I've encountered. Needless to say I'm switching back to Windows (which isn't without its own problems) next time I'm buying a computer.
This mac has made my RSI go haywire. I've tried to do everything the "Apple way", but it's just always so clunky and slow compared to Windows.
by joeman1000 on 4/11/22, 11:11 PM
On window snapping: why on earth would you want to obscure your desktop with two huge panes? I usually have ‘small’ applications on my desktop ‘workspace’ (terminal, reminders, messages, finder). I always see ex-windows users cluttering their desktop workspace and not utilising more workspaces. It’s more efficient (in my opinion) to have multiple workspaces and avoid the tedious game of minimising and maximising dozens of windows on the desktop. I get that it’s what you’re used to, since this behaviour is enforced on windows, but do give the macOS way a shot. Whenever I’m on windows I feel hampered by the lack of virtual workspaces.
I think some of the idiosyncrasies are worth bearing with in macOS. It’s worth it even for the consistency of the design across the OS. It seems trite, but I like that everything speaks the same design language. It feels coherent. I’m never jarred as I am on windows 10, when I open the advance control panel and find that it’s from 1999.
by spicyusername on 4/11/22, 7:55 PM
This always floors me when I have to use a non-Linux computer. The difference between package management on Linux and other OSes is shocking. Dnf, Yum, Pacman are all so convenient and straightforward.
I can't understand why Windows and MacOS don't have anything official that fills this gap.
by rconti on 4/11/22, 8:33 PM
I still feel that tabs-everywhere is making up for a broken window manager. Why should we offload this to each application?
by forbiddenvoid on 4/11/22, 11:38 PM
by jmull on 4/11/22, 10:55 PM
I use Windows and macos daily and I sorta prefer the mac’s window management, but they both work fine once you know what you’re doing. In some cases macos just has different keystrokes that the author doesn’t know yet, and in others you just manage windows a little differently (or use an app if you don’t want to adjust).
by cudgy on 4/11/22, 8:48 PM
The user just started to use the OS: of course they have little knowledge of customization plus they are using a computer subject to corporate policies. Not a fair criticism.
However, the critique of the window snapping mechanics is correct. Very frustrating to have the window go full screen when removing one half of the previously split screen.
by kps on 4/11/22, 8:19 PM
It does; they're just labelled ‘Alt’ and ‘Windows’.
by digisign on 4/12/22, 2:59 AM
I managed to change this, but DBeaver finds a way to screw it up occasionally.
by noway421 on 4/12/22, 12:36 AM
by rogual on 4/12/22, 2:57 PM
1. Open a terminal on screen 1.
2. Open a terminal and a browser on screen 2.
3. Be using the terminal on screen 1.
4. Cmd-Tab to the browser.
5. Cmd-Tab to "go back"
MacOS will switch to the terminal... on screen 2.Drives me nuts.
by systematical on 4/12/22, 2:32 AM
Even if I spent the time honing in the UI and terminal. Home Brew is just terrible compared to Apt. That's really the game for me. Maybe my next gig will let me use Linux, but Mac seems to be becoming the only show in town for nix-based development teams and its just sad.
by simonbarker87 on 4/11/22, 7:39 PM
by tetsusaiga on 4/11/22, 8:06 PM
I agree that this was a fair, measured post, but I find it bizarre that a Linux enthusiast would ever want to replace their Mac OS with Windows when the biggest complaint is... window management? I feel like they left something out here.
by selimnairb on 4/12/22, 12:59 AM
by Karupan on 4/12/22, 12:15 AM
by etchalon on 4/11/22, 7:52 PM
by mch82 on 4/12/22, 1:19 AM
> I’m using this Macbook almost exclusively with the lid closed, with a USB-C adapter to connect my keyboard/mouse/monitor.
> However, that keyboard doesn’t have the Option (⌥) or Command (⌘) keys like on my Macbook.
The reviewer isn’t using the built in webcam, Touch ID, trackpad, or the Mac keyboard layout! Why even have a Mac with that setup?
Opening the lid solves the webcam issues. Using the trackpad gestures solves the desktop switching issues. Using the Mac keyboard solves the keyboard command issues. And, yeah, get a USB-C dock for those ports (or the latest laptop that added them back).
by wwalexander on 4/12/22, 10:54 PM
This functionality is actually built into macOS by default, though it’s not very discoverable. The Tile Window to Left/Right of Screen options (which can also be found in the Window menu in the menu bar) change to Move Window to Left/Right of Screen when you are holding ⌥, which will move and resize the windows as desired without entering full screen. (For windows whose minimum width exceeds half the screen width, the left edge will be aligned properly while the right edge will overflow into the other half of the screen or off the edge of the screen respectively).
> Also, unlike Windows or Linux, you can’t “maximize” a window using the green “zoom” button, it will only make the current window fullscreen (and again, on its own desktop). Confusingly, you need to again click and hold the green “zoom” button, then choose “Zoom”. Apple calls the green button “zoom” in their documentation, but its default function is fullscreen, not zoom.…For all the Apple fanboys screaming “There’s an app for that!”, I hear you, but remember, this is a work machine and I need to get everything I install blessed by IT security.
While it is unfortunate that Apple doesn’t provide any shortcuts for these features, you can set them up yourself without any extra software via > System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > App Shortcuts. I have the following “missing” shortcuts set up, kind of like the tiling shortcuts on Windows but with more modifier keys.
Move Window to Left of Screen: ⌃⌥⌘←
Move Window to Right of Screen: ⌃⌥⌘→
Zoom: ⌃⌥⌘↑
Tile Window to Left of Screen: ⌃⌘←
Tile Window to Right of Screen: ⌃⌘→
Enter Full Screen: ⌃⌘↑
by _ZeD_ on 4/12/22, 4:49 AM
The MacBook Pro HW is mediocre, at best.
The body is heavy. Boy, have anyone used and LG gram? But even my other work laptop (a Lenovo) wheight less and feel more balanced.
My model has only the usbc ports.. I don't even have an HDMI one.
My model has the infamous touchbar, and it sucks. A lot. But even the keys... They seems empty, I don't have feedback from them...
And for the ginormous touchpad... I ended using a mouse because that "thing" it's awful to use. I don't give a dime to the gestures... The problem is the lack of feedback! Not a click, a way to understand if you "did" something or not. It was so absurd that I though it was damaged.
I really don't get the "Mac HW is stellar" meme
by mushyhammer on 4/12/22, 12:25 AM
Other than the spacebar and column view, the Finder is a toy compared to File Explorer.exe and I’ll never forgive Apple for it. 20 years of staleness.
by pojzon on 4/12/22, 7:26 AM
It was the best switch I could make. I had fully working linux distribution together with superb UX of MacOS.
Recently switched jobs and again back to Windows. Now I see how many things that simply work out of the box on MacOS you have to hack-in on Windows to be even able to work as a software developer.
WSL2 is also such a pain to work with. Quality of Microsoft apps on Windows is also worse than Microsoft apps on MacOS. For example -> MS Teams on Windows constantly hangs up or freezes. Never had such issues on MacOS. Beside OS nothing changed in my home office.
by linsomniac on 4/11/22, 10:16 PM
I agree with what this article has to say. Great hardware. For my primary reason for spending the money on it, it runs rings around anything else out there (video editing).
The OS I find mostly ok, but a few things feel pretty rough:
Updates. My terminal blocks updates from happening when I'm not using it. Updates take an amazingly long time where you can't use the system. I'm talking like the majority of an hour. It makes Windows updates look speedy, and I hate how long Windows updates take. Linux and ChromeOS do this right: You can use the system while it is doing updates, then it's just a reboot into the updates
The app finder (3 finger pinch), I sure wish it was a little smarter. In Firefox if I go to the URL bar and type "n" it knows I probably want "news.ycombinator.com". Every time I 3 finger pinch and type "b" it's like a babe in the woods, never having met me before. Now, every time I type "blue", MacOS thinks I want "bluetooth" until I add the "j" and it can figure out that, like every time I've done this, I want the BlueJeans app because it's meeting time...
I still haven't gotten used to clicking the yellow window button and the app "hides", the only thing on my screen is firefox or whatever, but when I start typing it's still going to that hidden app.
That said, it's still a great box. Mostly I use it as a web browser and a SSH terminal to my work machine. But, it has absolutely solved an infrequent pain point for me: Editing videos of my kids. Last fall I edited a concert video, the hour long concert took me ~40 hours to do because my wife's laptop, reasonably powerful but not the highest end GPU, required so much time generating optimized media and churning, and even then everything I did was slow as molasses.
The Mac has handled all video editing tasks without breaking a sweat. I feel like an idiot for spending the money for an infrequent task, but it is a 100% solved problem now.
by ctime on 4/12/22, 1:20 AM
I recall visiting a Apple store around 2006 and playing with a store model iMac. I asked why I couldn’t easily maximize windows and manage them. The Apple genius just replied “why would you ever want to do it that way!”
Well, idk? because it is intuitive and works? Sometimes I wish the Apple-heads would get their head out of their asses.
I still bought a Mac Mini and by all accounts I am deeply invested in Apple products.
These days, whenever working on a new Mac system, my first install is usually to install Amethest (https://ianyh.com/amethyst/)
by rewgs on 4/12/22, 1:36 AM
Window snapping and maximize are the only two things I agree with here, but they are easily fixed by many third party apps. To those that say that’s “cheating” or something like that: the amount of third-party software required to give me a usable Windows system far outweighs what I install on a Mac. Yes macOS’s window snapping/maximization are non-existent/weird, but BetterSnapTool is one of the few “first installs” I feel I MUST make on a Mac. Contrast that with OneCommander, Everything Search, 7-Zip, etc that I absolutely require on a Windows machine. And even then the experience is…crusty. And of course you can’t even talk about Linux here — the whole thing is third party software, that’s the point.
Cmd+tab is simple: it is for apps. Cmd+~ is for windows within apps. This is, I think, a very fair way to approach a system wherein “having all windows closed” != “the app is closed;” a design decision that I think is far, far more useful than Windows/most Linux DEs (it also arises out of the fundamental difference of “being in app (Finder) when you’re not in any other apps” — again, a better overall UX decision, I think.
The comments from supposed “power users” claiming that you can’t cut/paste within Finder clearly aren’t power users.
Etc.
As usual, these rants and arguments come down to little more than familiarity. I have met very, very few people with a truly objective and measured take on desktop OS UX and are power users.
by oneplane on 4/12/22, 12:17 AM
There isn't much of a point in attacking or defending taste in such a way, but neither is trying to objectively score something because it's not the objective score that matters, it's how it feels to the user, and users aren't all identical.
by sofixa on 4/11/22, 9:22 PM
It's mostly meh. I don't care for the OS conventions ( like the cmd stuff) and I'm not going to force myself out of years of muscle memory for one of my machines, but i can mostly tune that ( with third party tools, but still). Cmd remapped to ctrl, cmd+tab remapped to ctrl+tab. The only issues is Ctrl+C doesn't work in iTerm, I've yet to fix that.
However the UX is like something for children - what's with drag and drop for installing a program?? The included tools range from meh to garbage - Pages mangling .docx and saving them in its proprietary format is inexcusable. And for some reason i can't get the MBP to sleep when it's charging and an external screen is connected - clicking sleep through the menu makes it sleep for a second and then it wakes up. Oh, and it's extremely annoying that the scroll button on a mouse and trackpad have to share the same scrolling direction.
Honestly i find that macOS is OK. Slightly better than Windows, but with annoying differences and stubborn "this is how things are, the old way no longer works, you're holding it wrong" attitude. Linux is best in terms of flexibility but has some other downsides.
by shp0ngle on 4/12/22, 3:36 AM
Sure, that maximize button doing a weird thing was still there - my "favourite" app was iTunes, which randomly switched it to a different mode - but otherwise, Expose was something amazing that other systems later copied, as well as the Dock system.
However, it kind of stalled recently, and the "tile window to the left" is laughably bad; as if coming from iPadOS.
by zamalek on 4/11/22, 8:14 PM
All credit due, Homebrew is amazing given that it doesn't have the same opportunities for deep integration that Linux package managers do. It certainly made MacOS bearable for me. But, it's only good in a walled vacuum. There's almost nothing else on the platform to compare it to. I have been using nix-darwin, but packages routinely break on darwin (not that I blame them for it).
Windows might have never had a package manager, but there are decades of workflows build up around not having one. Downloading an .exe/.msi and installing is sub-optimal, dangerous, and barbaric, but it does work. Linux has pacman, RPM, deb, nix, ostree, flatpak, and more, which (from personal experience) are all amazing. The Mac package workflow has been built up around a second-class citizen: Homebrew. And the fact that Homebrew is a second-class citizen shows. If you've used almost any other package manager as a daily driver you get an idea just how wanting the whole MacOS ecosystem is. There are a few ones worse than your options with Apple (cough Snap cough), but not many.
I wonder how many Apple power users understand just how bad they have it with Apple.
by bjoli on 4/12/22, 11:34 AM
In Monterey they made it easier to use multiple audio outputs. The new UI removes scrolling over the speaker icon to change volume.
After updating to Monterey some of my keyboards don't have a command key. They worked until I updated. Now I get weird issues. But only on the non-US-ansi layouts (I'm Swedish).
Similar things:
Firefox on android started opening things from the most visited list in new tabs. I press the address bar and press one of my 8 most visited sites (which account for 95% of my sites) and they open in a new tab. This changed from one version to another, and now I regularly have 40 tabs, some I want to keep.
Google decided that the volume up button on 3.5mm headphones should start the assistant. So suddenly none of my headphones work as they should.
I notice things like this all the time. Especially the last one kills me. Who, who?!!, thought this was a good idea. Every update on os X and my smartphone brings something that makes me feel like I am fed a turd. I don't use Windows, but I suspect it is the same thing there.
by gigel82 on 4/12/22, 1:15 AM
Even after a couple of years, I dread having to work on the mac. Could be me being used to Windows since the DOS / Win3.1 days, but I feel right at home on Windows - know most nooks and crannies; macOS feels like a kid's toy by comparison (an ATM or kiosk terminal) - it literally feels like being asked to do work with my right hand tied behind my back. I actually enjoy working on Linux desktops more than on macOS.
For the past year I have a home setup with a Windows laptop and a macBook side-by-side hooked up to 2 external monitors and Barrier software KVM; the idea was to use Windows for work and mac for personal. But I never venture outside the browser on the mac - a chromebook would work just as well.
I actually wanted to install an USB network adapter because the machine felt so laggy and I blamed wifi; a thing that on Windows for the past 20 years has literally been plug&play needed futzing around with driver packages, an hour of searching for workarounds and at least 2 reboots.
I honestly don't know why so many developers prefer working on mac.
by js2 on 4/12/22, 12:16 AM
> Also, unlike Windows or Linux, you can’t “maximize” a window using the green “zoom” button, it will only make the current window fullscreen (and again, on its own desktop). Confusingly, you need to again click and hold the green “zoom” button, then choose “Zoom”. Apple calls the green button “zoom” in their documentation, but its default function is fullscreen, not zoom.
Apple keeps changing the green button, but with Monterey, if you hold down Option then hover over the green its menu options become:
- Zoom
- Move Window to Left Side of Screen
- Move Window to Right Side of Screen
Which I think effect the behavior the author wants. In general, the Option key is the gateway to additional behaviors in the macOS GUI. I can't find a way to make this the default behavior of the green button, but what you can do is add keyboard shortcuts for them.
System Preferences... > Keyboard > Shortcuts > +
Application: All Applications
Menu Title: Move Window to Left Side of Screen
Keyboard Shortcut: something unique such as control-command-left-arrow.
Repeat for "Move Window to Right Side of Screen" and "Zoom".The title bar can also be double-clicked to zoom (default is to minimize, but there's a preference under System Preferences... > Dock & Menu Bar to set it to zoom).
by ayroblu on 4/12/22, 11:26 AM
by FpUser on 4/12/22, 1:54 AM
It was given by employer. People get used to particular keyboard, mouse, big monitor, etc. etc.
I had to write and debug some docker scripts on Mac. Since I was in no mood to buy one just for that I asked my client to supply me one. They gave me Mac laptop and I used it in exactly the same configuration with the lid closed.
by thaway2839 on 4/11/22, 8:55 PM
It used to be that OSes provided window management, file management, some basic file handling, and APIs and framework to build and connect apps.
Apple, instead, sees the OS as an app launcher that provides a framework to build isolated apps.
IOW, it's reduced macOS to the Dock.
by landa on 4/12/22, 4:13 AM
Just hold option when you click on the "zoom" button.
Your other complaint, about Alt-Tab, is just a preference. I actually prefer this behavior over Windows.
by pombrand on 4/12/22, 6:10 PM
I switched from Windows last month, after installing rectangle, bettertouchtools and speeding up all animations possible, I'm left with the following gripes.
1. No magnetic windows the way windows does unless in the clunky fullscreen mode.
2. No way to turn off animations for maximising windows.
3. No way to let mouseover select window an action is taken in (i keep closing the wrong chrome window using mouse gestures)
4. Finder still sucks (so does no cutting and pasting files)
5. All apps cost money, e.g. ScreenX for windows is free and better than all paid macos options for screenshots.
6. Chrome window resizing seems artificially slow.
Overall windows still feels more productive, but also sucks more in many other ways, such as preinstalling candy crush or its opaque update system.
by barbs on 4/12/22, 6:42 AM
I'm sure there's some technical explanation that makes sense, but it feels wrong.
by mikl on 4/12/22, 4:02 PM
The author thinks the macOS way is weird/annoying/wrong, without realising that this is just an emotional judgment caused by his own (in)experience rather than a problem with macOS.
The differences do chafe until your mental model adapts itself. The inverse is also true. When I happen to use Windows, I hate how I can’t drag a window anywhere near the edges without the snapping behaviour kicking in. I hate having to use Ctrl-C for copying, since that means something quite different in Unix, etc.
by csomar on 4/11/22, 11:06 PM
1. The Spotlight program will randomly consume 100% of your CPU while you are doing actual work.
2. The iCloud integration will decide to disappear your desktop/document folders when you most need them, and nobody understand how that thing works.
3. macOS safety features not allowing you to install some software. Worse, it doesn't give you a hint that it is the responsible party.
4. macOS parental control blocks randomly your localhost, failing some requests. Spend 6-10 hours investigating to find out the real culprit. Good luck deactivating that.
And these are just on the top of my head and I hadn't used macOS in the last two years. I can't imagine what a cluster-fff it must be right now with all the crap they have been adding.
by gotrythis on 4/12/22, 4:01 AM
The two top bad points in the article can be fixed with addons: - Moom (https://manytricks.com/moom/) to snap windows, - Contexts (https://contexts.co/) to switch between apps.
Yes, it would be better if this functionality was included, but it's an easy fix.
The thing that was a dealbreaker for me with Windows is that it would reboot to upgrade without my permission and I would lose work. Mac doesn't do that. It may reboot to upgrade when I"m not looking, but you would never know as it puts you exactly back where you were before the reboot.
That one thing will keep me loyal to Mac.
by m0shen on 4/11/22, 7:51 PM
by ambyra on 4/12/22, 3:16 AM
by major505 on 4/11/22, 8:36 PM
Diferent from the author I had some previous experience with macbooks, since I did had a Macbook white many years ago, and have some vintage apple computers like a clamshell laptop and a G4 (I just think they are neat).
While I`m in no way as productive with it as I`m with my thinkpad runing Fedora there`s some mitigation I was able to do.
The main wone with the window manager. While I do think Apple full screen works well when working exclusive with the mac screen, when connected to multiple screens is a pain in the ass.
In this case Magnet solved my problems since it looks a lot with the Windows / Gnome way of dividing the screen with multiple applications.
by legitster on 4/11/22, 8:41 PM
I was recently forced to switch to a Mac for work. After 6+ months I am still relatively unimpressed.
I feel like such a big baby, and I know it's because I am familiar with something else, but I cannot express enough how much I hate Mac's window management. I constantly have to split up my work between multiple Chrome windows and I am now resigned to losing track of everything all the time.
(Hardware wise - I might actually disagree. The device feels nice, but I've found it to be fairly fragile and delicate. Whereas you can drop a Thinkpad down a flight of stairs into a pool of ice cream, a 6-inch fall onto a hard surface might total the screen on the MacBook. But special shoutout to the speakers which still impress me.)
by lfrigodesouza on 4/12/22, 5:03 PM
The hardware is truly amazing, no arguing with that, but the OS overall experience have not been very good for me. I knew that there would be needed some time to adapt, but there are some things that are simply counter-intuitive. I'm even having trouble putting this to sleep. I've lost count of how many times I had chosen the "Sleep" option on the menu only to the macbook not go into sleep, and drain my battery overnight...
by mavili on 4/12/22, 8:51 AM
Window management used to be a pain for me too on a mac until I found Spectacle. With a few keyboard shortcuts that you set yourself, you won't miss snapping windows by mouse drags. Everything happens with your fingers on the keyboard.
Alt+Tab with multi-window apps is still a pain for me I admit. So I'm with you there.
Overall the stability of a mac (both software and hardware), usability and the productivity you get with the trackpad gestures will make you not want to go back to anything after you've used them for a few weeks.
by coutego on 4/12/22, 9:01 AM
I have one very big item to put on the 'Bad' list not mentioned in the article: key shortcuts, especially those for text manipulation. I'm reading and writing emails and documents all day long. I need CTRL-LEFT (ok, SUPER-LEFT) to do the right thing and move one word at a time. Having to switch to ALT-LEFT for that is killing my productivity in MacOS /and/ in Linux and Windows (because my muscle memory is gone). It's extremely frustrating.
by thombles on 4/12/22, 5:07 AM
by poink on 4/12/22, 2:42 AM
by domepro on 4/12/22, 10:34 AM
by sylens on 4/11/22, 7:44 PM
by sircastor on 4/11/22, 11:53 PM
However I feel like pointing out that no one who uses a computer for mundane tasks like surfing, writing email, watching videos, posting pictures, etc. cares remotely what a package manager is, or how well it works.
Package managers feel like they live exclusively in the realm of developers and Linux aficionados. And I see people complain about it as though they just bought a house to discover it doesn’t have toilets.
by bodge5000 on 4/12/22, 10:22 AM
I doubt I'd get a mac anyway because there aren't many games I could play on it, but I have been previously tempted over the past year or so.
by jonnycomputer on 4/11/22, 7:35 PM
by itslennysfault on 4/11/22, 8:25 PM
For the cmd+tab thing I think it's a matter of taste and/or something that the author will get used to. I think I found it odd at first too, but now I get mad at Windows for not doing it that way. I love being able to switch between windows of the same program only.
by sandwichinvest on 4/11/22, 10:54 PM
by makecheck on 4/12/22, 1:03 AM
by bourgeoismedia on 4/12/22, 4:13 AM
by 960design on 4/11/22, 8:10 PM
by rubyist5eva on 4/11/22, 10:39 PM
Hold the option key and it snaps on the same desktop.
Or install Rectangle.app (free) which gives you mouse dragging and keyboard shortcut snapping like Windows/Linux.
by SkyMarshal on 4/12/22, 2:36 AM
Fwiw I'm not sure anyone really thinks of the M1 in terms of performance vs efficiency cores, but rather in terms CPU and GPU cores (and maybe Neural cores if they're doing AI). For example, "8 CPU Cores and 16 GPU Cores", or "10 CPU Cores and 24 GPU Cores", or the like. But not even Apple's own store really makes an upfront differential between performance and efficiency cores.
by spurgu on 4/12/22, 5:04 PM
Out-of-the-box yes.
> If you open two of the same window (e.g., two Chrome windows), they appear as one in the dock. However, when you press Command (⌘)+Tab, this will only show one entry for Chrome, even though you have two windows of Chrome open.
For app switching I've set the "Move focus to next window" keyboard shortcut to Option+Tab (don't remember what the default is). This works like Cmd+Tab, except it cycles between windows of the active application (i.e. Chrome windows in the above example). It's really quick and smooth since you just move your thumb between Cmd and Option.
There is a slight difference between using Cmd+Tab though - you don't get a preview of the window you're about to switch to, so it's sometimes a bit clumsy if you have many windows open. To solve this I have three-finger swipe down set to display all windows of the focused app (called App Exposé). Don't remember whether this is default behavior. But with this you actually see all windows, which makes it even better than Cmd+Tab in this regard (which only shows icons).
The above two in combination work very well for me and window management is a breeze.
For window snapping I use BetterTouchTool[0] (paid app), but agree that if you need to get corporate IT's blessing to install apps then it's a hassle. Another app I couldn't live without: Alfred[1]. Just its clipboard history management and snippets make it awesome, but it can do so much more, like Workflows which I use a lot for various things). And iTerm2[2] is great.
So in conclusion I agree with OP - if I was forced to use a vanilla installation then I'd prefer most Linux DE's, but being able to install a couple of apps I simply love MacOS and would have a really tough time transitioning back to Linux (been a MacOS user now for almost 7 years, before that 10 years of Linux).
by paxys on 4/11/22, 7:41 PM
by hprotagonist on 4/11/22, 7:55 PM
then i went in hard on i3.
now, macOS feels ungainly.
by gen220 on 4/11/22, 7:58 PM
Especially for touch typists, I think it's faster than cmd+tab: doesn't require you to use your mental "app icon classifier", and it's impossible to over/under-shoot the target.
Scales O(N), where N is the number of windows open in the app you're switching to, whereas cmd+tab + cmd+` is O(N) + O(M), where M is the number of apps you have running.
by Sharlin on 4/11/22, 7:44 PM
To be fair, MBPs also had those for years, until Apple in its wisdom decided to ditch them in 2016, along with making other questionable interface decisions that they've been gradually reverting since then. I still use a 2015 MBP partially for that reason. Now it's probably become a time to upgrade to a M1 model.
by bastardoperator on 4/12/22, 3:33 AM
by vbezhenar on 4/12/22, 9:39 AM
One of the latest ones: to create new window for safari you have to press Cmnd+N. But if safari is maximized, you have to press Cmnd+Alt+N. Why? No idea.
And the fact that I have to manually adjust safari window width to make it full screen without hiding other interface elements is even more weird. Some apps support alt+maximize, some do not. Safari is latter. Definitely no technical reason.
by notshuttingdown on 4/12/22, 1:45 AM
macOS takes the entire app full screen in a separate desktop and doesn't allow other windows to overlap.
Cmd + Tab during full screen triggers a 1 sec animation as it switches workspaces... so if someone texts you on your iPhone during a video, you can't just peek at the Messages app with the video in the background :'(
by urbandw311er on 4/11/22, 9:55 PM
I have it set to move the window under the mouse cursor when I hold down Fn — and if I also hold down shift then it resizes the window under the mouse cursor until I release Shift
It must have saved me, in aggregate, hundreds of hours as I no longer have to care about finding the top or edge of a window to move/resize.
Try it! An absolute game changer for productivity.
by jihadjihad on 4/11/22, 7:53 PM
The only other major thing is how terrible Finder is out of the box. There are ways to make it less terrible, but it's still far less than ideal in usability.
by merdaverse on 4/12/22, 1:41 PM
So I just end up with most of the stuff on one desktop and using spotlight with the trackpad to switch. But props to Apple for having the smoothest spotlight implementation of the three.
by tethik on 4/12/22, 9:27 AM
I'm not recommending linux for everyone. Far from it. But if you want the best experience and don't mind tinkering, I think it's the best you can get currently.
by freyr on 4/12/22, 2:16 AM
Not to say MacOS is objectively better or that it gets everything right. But any time you’re thrust into an unfamiliar workflow, it’s frustrating. You want things to work the way you’re used to. Eventually you learn to appreciate what works, and work around what doesn’t.
by hn_99 on 4/12/22, 11:59 AM
by mr_o47 on 4/12/22, 4:18 AM
by godelski on 4/12/22, 3:57 AM
That said, I prefer Mac over windows. It is close enough to linux and has crazy good battery life. Now that I'm not using C++ anymore and mostly python the differences aren't too big.
by Hnrobert42 on 4/12/22, 11:53 AM
by MrMan on 4/12/22, 3:37 AM
by tnsengimana on 4/12/22, 11:51 AM
by dddddaviddddd on 4/12/22, 1:19 AM
by kaetemi on 4/12/22, 12:39 AM
by nurgasemetey on 4/12/22, 5:18 AM
by petesergeant on 4/12/22, 4:55 AM
oh you just wait, sweet summer child
by SPBS on 4/12/22, 4:55 AM
- Window management (Magnet)
- Command-tab (Contexts)
I guess this means corporate-enforced macOS (no downloading of unapproved apps) would be a nightmare for users.
by rrdharan on 4/12/22, 1:18 AM
Also no mention made of the Cmd-~ vs Cmd-Tab distinction.
by geephroh on 4/11/22, 11:58 PM
But, seriously, I've become so accustomed to the many shortcomings of macOS UX that using anything else would be like living in a house without loose doorknobs and sloping floors. Embrace the suck.
by ppeetteerr on 4/11/22, 8:31 PM
by guelo on 4/12/22, 12:54 AM
by iamcreasy on 4/12/22, 2:59 AM
I also moved from Windows to MacOS. What was the purpose behind introducing ctrl, opt and cmd button? What do they stand for?
by aeturnum on 4/11/22, 7:47 PM
Will let you snap windows the way you expect.
by markdown on 4/12/22, 3:36 AM
TIL, and I've been using MacOS and OS X for almost 15 years.
by als0 on 4/11/22, 8:37 PM
This sounds wrong. Isn’t POSIX a mandatory subset of the Single Unix Specification? Hence it is inherently certified.
by datavirtue on 4/12/22, 12:27 AM
by ghostpepper on 4/11/22, 7:43 PM
by ImaCake on 4/12/22, 2:07 AM
by throwmeariver1 on 4/12/22, 12:14 AM
by danielyaa5 on 4/12/22, 3:54 PM
by Sporktacular on 4/11/22, 11:37 PM
by can16358p on 4/12/22, 10:24 AM
Every time I need to work with Windows, I think switching from Windows to Mac was one of the greatest decisions of my life.
And I'm saying this as a person who still have used Windows more than Mac in his life, time-wise. That whole OS is a mess.
I think the author will get used to macOS by time. I complained about similar stuff initially, but then got used to everything pretty quickly and those are just very minor issues that definitely do not outweigh the benefits.
by jack_pp on 4/11/22, 7:56 PM
I'll stick with my linux i3 env for the foreseeable future
by cutler on 4/12/22, 3:44 AM
by badrabbit on 4/12/22, 10:21 AM
by hexteria on 4/12/22, 12:22 PM
by imwillofficial on 4/11/22, 7:54 PM
by woah on 4/12/22, 3:15 AM
by abledon on 4/12/22, 3:40 AM
IT IS THE KILLER APP for macOS. If I hadn't discovered it years ago I'd be so distraught
by jaunkst on 4/12/22, 12:23 AM
by johmue on 4/12/22, 6:25 AM
by 2143 on 4/12/22, 2:02 AM
by shahbaby on 4/12/22, 4:31 AM
MacOS comes doesn't come with enough.
by dsego on 4/12/22, 6:16 AM
by amits1995 on 4/12/22, 12:50 PM
by h3cate on 4/11/22, 7:57 PM
by simonsg on 4/12/22, 3:03 AM
by beders on 4/12/22, 4:14 AM
by agentdrek on 4/12/22, 12:12 AM
by teekert on 4/12/22, 9:11 AM
* Tried installing Signal 4 times, it failed on the apple account generation and no further clues that it didn't or did install signal (it didn't).
* You can't just put icons on the bottom of screen, where your thumb is... need to fill the top with other icons first to get important stuff on the bottom. (The start screen fills from the top, so to say, very annoying).
* Love the privacy notice that say they won't share anything that is not needed for functioning, feels good.
* App store does not start with search.. so I feel a bit lost at first.
* Confirm app installs with side button twice, bit weird. Especially when you have the phone in your left hand.
* Absolutely maddening that it keeps correcting my .nl email adres to .nul (android leaves non text field alone as far as I'm aware).
* Nextcloud picture not available to Signal? I Synced some folder of nice pics for profile pics. Where are they?
* No intro at all into UI... After a week or so, I got a sort of set if intro cards which were quite helpful.
* Almost all of my selfhosted apps are represented, very nice (NextCloud, Home Assistant, WireGuard)
* Top suggestion in app store is never what you are looking for or searched for. Pretty strange. Can we change that? Ah I learned later that the first one is an ad, you can see it because there dark blue around it (???)..
* Many controls are at the top when I can't reach them. In Android I feel that that is much more avoided.
* Video pauses when taking a quick look at notification tray, I don't like that.
* Notification tray is on the left side, the settings on the right. But not on the lock screen, then it's a swipe up... (I got used to this after some time)
* Can't drag to folder onto lower bar/icon area (maybe fixed in iOS 15)
* Pull down in middle of screen brings up Siri, not notifications, I'd swap that, now notifications really require a stretch of your hand, or that awkward small swipe down at the bottom. I turned Siri of when she started interrupting my meetings.
* I set Firefox as the standard browser yet both telegram and Signal (so far) always open Safari.
* Photos contains every image, not just photos, it's more like a gallery.
* Why is it not grouping notifications? Notifications were quite confusing at first, but I got used to it. Especially the difference in notifications and bars (stroken in dutch).
* Auto correct does not uncorrect on backspace. Language switching does seem to go very well. It ofter autocorrects my last work AFTER I press send. Absolutely maddening.
* Swipe to type only seems available for English (fixed in iOS 15)
* Notification dots sometimes stuck on Nextcloud or other apps, I turned them off on some apps.
* Swiping in photos app is un-intuitive... but once used to it it works well and is consistent, ie it also work in chat apps like signal, close picture, swipe down. Details, swipe up.
* Printing worked without an app, but unable to change size or anything. Everything is printed at 25%? Samsung/HP print apps are absolute crap.
* Red dots are not synced with open notifications, when I dismiss a notification I want the red dot gone. hotspot keeps shutting down after some time, annoying.
* I had 652 mb is data on iCloud no idea what it was, I didn't think about it and now stuffis in the cloud.
* In the android notification tray curation can happen, on iOS it feels like a mess (not anymore after a year)
* Alarm is confusing, not the same sound for the health alarm as the other and weird to change an alarm. Also weird to turn the alarm off
* Replying to an email and adding a couple of consecutive pictures is a very difficult.
* Widgets feel connected, updating the calendar and closing it makes it swoop back into the widget and the widget has the changes I made. On android I was used to it being normal that widget would still need some time to update, later on, to represent my changes.
* One gets a report screen use report about next week, tap it, it takes you to the current week :s
by nativeit on 4/12/22, 4:57 AM
18-months ago it was time to upgrade my primary desktop, and I decided to completely change my personal computing platform once again after reading about the performance of the M1 chipset. With my curiosity piqued, I looked and found that new M1 Mac Minis were comparatively very affordable (under $1k), so figured I'd take the plunge. Maybe it's because I'm something of a masochist and rather enjoy the experience of exploring new systems and UI paradigms, but even using a Windows-style keyboard and mouse, I thought MacOS was an enjoyable and intuitive (if somewhat rigid) experience.
What surprised me most, and I'm kind of perplexed that it hasn't been mentioned elsewhere in this comment section, was how powerful the built-in tools for customization and automation were. Applescript and Automator are kind of like having a natively integrated AutoIT scripting engine. I don't miss WSL since I have ZSH (or BASH) readily available out of the box, and Macports and Homebrew do a reasonably good job of package management (they have their strengths and weaknesses when compared to APT, but I have not had to spend nearly as much time chasing down missing packages as I did when I was running Debian and CentOS).
The other pleasant surprise was the unparalleled quality of most of the software available, particularly with Apple's mobile OS when compared to Android. Anyone who uses a mobile device to write/record/produce/perform music is seriously missing out if they aren't using an iPad, and Logic Pro on MacOS is easily one of the best DAW's I've ever used at a fraction of the price of others (I will grant that DAW's are even more highly influenced by personal factors than even OSes are, so I won't go so far as to assert it's "better" than any others). Yes, Apple's software development ecosystem is more closed and restrictive, for everything in their AppStore especially, but that comes with increased security, privacy, and stability. The other upside, and the reason iOS/iPad OS apps are frequently so much nicer, is that developers can generally spend less time/effort worrying about all of the wildly variable hardware platforms and custom launchers their apps must support--with any possible slip up resulting in a potentially ruinous slew of negative reviews.
For all the dozens of people complaining about window switching--if you're on a Macbook, the three-finger swipe to move between desktops/full-screen apps is frankly a joy when working between two applications. For everything else, I use a 21:9 widescreen monitor that makes side-by-side windows a natural experience.
It did take a lot of getting used to some of the differences, but honestly, I embrace the somewhat creative mental burst I get by leaving my comfort zone, and if you come at these different approaches with an open mind, a little patience, and a willingness to adapt when needed or to find workarounds otherwise--MacOS has a lot of great features for anyone who works with creative workloads or software development, and the integration with desktop and mobile devices is unbelievably good compared to anything else. But I honestly have never really understood the tribalism that exists with tech brands and Mac/PC or Android/iPhone squabbles. I have found ways of enjoying all of them for what they are good at, and screaming at them for what they aren't.
by borland on 4/12/22, 9:17 AM
> Snapping
Yes, macOS does suck in this regard. I can only hope they address it in the future.
> unlike Windows or Linux, you can’t “maximize” a window using the green “zoom” button
Hold down option when you click the green button. Annoying that Apple made this undiscoverable, but nevertheless it works and is built-in
> Command+Tab
macOS does this differently than windows or linux. I prefer the macOS way. Shrug? This is not a problem in macOS though. Your cheese got moved, deal with it :-)
> However, that keyboard doesn’t have the Option (⌥) or Command (⌘) keys like on my Macbook. This makes using keyboard shortcuts difficult due to the keys being switched, but I don’t blame Apple for this. I tried changing the modifier keys in System Preferences–>Keyboard, but that broke other keyboard shortcuts.
I'm not sure what he did here, but I've been using system preferences to swap the Windows and Alt keys so they match Option and Cmd, for over a decade and it works flawlessly. I can only assume he's misunderstanding something?
> However, plugging in a mouse with a scroll wheel means the scroll wheel is “backward”. Thankfully, I was able to download Logitech’s Options software to reverse this.
There's a checkbox in system prefs for that, you don't need any crazy logitech junk!