by carlesfe on 4/1/22, 3:00 PM with 199 comments
by tzs on 4/1/22, 5:57 PM
That's terrible advice. For a non-adjustable stand it needs to be at or near the lowest that people would want, because it is way easier to raise a fixed stand that is too low by putting something under it than it is to lower a fixed stand that is too high. (At least when the stand base is a simple rectangle--it might be harder on monitors that have narrow crescent bases).
Bricks are cheap [1] and would be great for raising such a monitor.
According to the specs at Apple the top of the monitor when on the non-adjustable stand is 47.8 cm above your desk. They don't give the bezel size but I've seen reviews say it is about 1/2", and that looks reasonable from the photos, so call it 1.3 cm. That would put the top of the screen at 46.5 cm.
I just measured my 27" iMac, which has the same size screen and a non-adjustable stand. The iMac top of screen is 49.5 cm about the desk.
I found the iMac a little too high. I ended up getting larger wheels [2] for my chair to effectively lower the iMac and putting a pillow on my chair to get a little more height for myself to make the iMac relatively lower. (Those are great wheels BTW. Unlike regular chair wheels these do not seem to end up clogged with hair wrapped around the axles).
[1] https://www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-x-2-1-4-in-x-4-in-Clay-Bric...
by ysleepy on 4/1/22, 3:34 PM
Then he concludes that 600nits is unnecessary and that he doesn't need or want the USB-C ports.
I have no idea why he went with the apple display instead of any good 4k screen for 400$, or two of them.
by yakkityyak on 4/1/22, 3:24 PM
by hyakosm on 4/1/22, 5:59 PM
by egypturnash on 4/1/22, 3:57 PM
It looks like the version with the VESA mount costs as much as the base model, plus a few hundred for a nice desk arm/wall mount/etc if you don't have one already holding up your current screen.
by radley on 4/1/22, 4:02 PM
The camera isn't technically as good as Apple's, but it also doesn't rely on Apple software. It can raise/lower and tilt without paying $400 extra. It has a black plastic frame which doesn't look as nice, but the glass won't chip if you bump your laptop into the side.
If I didn't already have an LG 5K, I'd buy the Apple Studio monitor. I used my previous Thunderbolt Display for over a decade. That should be sufficient time for someone at Apple to fix the camera bug.
by veidr on 4/2/22, 4:02 AM
This is literally how I felt about moving from these 27" 5K screens (I had Apple's iMac Pro and also a couple LG UltraFine external monitors), when I moved to a 31.5" 8K screen (Dell UP3218K).
The difference is every bit as dramatic as going 4K → 5K.
I had literally just gotten my first prescription glasses a month before getting the 8K. I don't need them at all on the 8K; I put them back on when I use these horrid, blurry 5K panels — panels that I used to love, mind you, and proclaimed "I think these are good enough; with my middle-aged eyesight I don't need anything better."
I was dead wrong.
by r00fus on 4/1/22, 4:56 PM
by mikl on 4/1/22, 8:40 PM
by wodenokoto on 4/1/22, 3:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_2sWzzar0
It's super disappointing that the pro colorist chooses LG over the Mac (and someone at dell must be super sad to see their $4k screen lose to a "cheap" apple monitor!) as you'd expect Apple to fuss over such details and go all in on calibrating monitors before shipping.
But it looks like they didn't calibrate anything. Monitor, sound or camera.
by lastofthemojito on 4/1/22, 4:24 PM
by D13Fd on 4/1/22, 4:32 PM
by ilovecaching on 4/1/22, 5:15 PM
I thought I was young enough to be living past the era of dial up, but now I realize my own dial up is the display.
by jasonpbecker on 4/1/22, 4:19 PM
by dbg31415 on 4/1/22, 5:39 PM
For me...
I like 2 monitors. Just one is a huge loss to productivity.
I like 4k Monitors. Anything less is unusable.
I like 144hz monitors.
I like matching monitors. I find that if I mix 4k and 1080p I am prone to headaches.
I like monitors where the top is roughly eye level, or even a little bit higher, when I'm sitting down. I feel this helps my posture.
I hate monitors with any sort of light on them that's not coming from the screen. Power lights on the front that are on when I use the monitor make them unusable for me.
I just go with whatever 2 monitors I can afford that match the above criteria.
I expect to pay $750 to $1,000 per monitor. So $1500 to $2000 when I buy new monitors.
I expect the monitors will last around 3 years... likely they can be re-homed after, but like most things I don't think they hold up for me personally after that time.
I couldn't ever afford 2x Apple Studio Displays... I mean... even if I could, I would have more sense.
At one point in the past, about 5-7 years back, the job bought me 2x Apple Thunderbolt Display... and frankly it was nice, but the monitors were so low to the desk they had to be stacked on reams of printer paper to make them usable. I thought it was funny the company spent like $3k on monitors and I still had stacks of printer paper on my desk.
by Tepix on 4/1/22, 4:01 PM
I also use a 27" 4K monitor. The difference between the two isn't that great. 5K is mostly useful for 4K video editing. PS: It sounds as if the author would have had a great experience with a 350€ 4K monitor, too.
by NAR8789 on 4/1/22, 4:40 PM
I think there's a typo here. This should go in the "Pros" section
by marcellus23 on 4/1/22, 3:47 PM
> There is a product manager at Apple who, for some reason, hates webcam users with a burning passion.
It also makes perfect sense, since the actual specs of the camera should be giving a much better picture.
by ignacioaal on 4/1/22, 3:27 PM
Planning on saving up until the Pro Display XDR gets updated and getting that instead.
by radley on 4/1/22, 9:45 PM
by bredren on 4/1/22, 6:26 PM
At this price range.
The XDR is a credible competitor to the Studio Display and if you read reviews from people who have adopted it for their primary development workstations, they are holding on to those as well.
The XDR Pro Display, like the Blackmagic eGPUs of yore is wildly underrated in describing its value to developers.
The display, it's fantastic $1000 stand, and the Blackmagic products (that greatly enhance performance of Intel-based macs) are completely buried under hair pulling around sticker price.
by hadjian on 4/1/22, 4:26 PM
Anyone know of a new paradime for text based computing one huge screens? Sounds too niche, right? ;-)
by yoz-y on 4/1/22, 4:44 PM
by asciimov on 4/1/22, 3:51 PM
by taylodl on 4/1/22, 5:54 PM
Okay, maybe it's not as bad as $699 for wheels for the Mac Pro, but that isn't right either! Consider that Apple is selling the iPhone SE for the same price that they're selling an height-adjustable monitor stand and less than for what they're charging for wheels! Can anyone explain this pricing?
by joeman1000 on 4/1/22, 9:27 PM
by gambiting on 4/3/22, 6:25 AM
by auto on 4/1/22, 5:09 PM
This is the way.
by Gualdrapo on 4/1/22, 3:47 PM
If this one had a bigger size (say, 32 inches) and a more 'squared' ratio, I'd consider it an upgrade.
by brailsafe on 4/1/22, 7:09 PM
by VectorLock on 4/1/22, 4:20 PM
Is it because the keys are as ugly and scuffed as they are on my MBP and you can't stand to look at them?
by zydex on 4/1/22, 10:41 PM
by dainiusse on 4/1/22, 4:28 PM
by convolvatron on 4/1/22, 4:18 PM
by go_prodev on 4/1/22, 4:53 PM
/s